Gov. Gavin Newsom signs a bipartisan bill banning octopus farming in the state. California is now the second state to do so.

The text of the law recognizes that octopuses are “highly intelligent, curious, problem-solving animals” that are conscious, sentient and experience “pain, stress, and fear, as well as pleasure, equanimity, and social bonds.” It goes on to note that in research studies, these eight-legged marine invertebrates have demonstrated long-term memory as well as the ability to recognize individual people.

At the very least, this sets a precedent, although it’s pretty obvious based on the law’s text that octopodes being the target here instead of or in addition to e.g. pigs which are known to be quite intelligent is a clear example of doublethink. Nonetheless, this is a huge win for just leaving animals the fuck alone.

  • @PlantJamEnglish
    7•3 months ago

    This seems like the opposite of the “cuteness effect”. Meaning people are more likely to care about conservation for something cute (giraffes, cheetahs) than not (spiders, salamanders). In this case, octopus is a “weird” food, so there isn’t push back on banning farming them. Like you said, the exact same logic applies to pigs, so why stop there?

    Better than nothing, I suppose.

    • TheTechnician27OPMEnglish
      12•3 months ago

      I think it’s that:

      • Americans are traditionally much more used to eating pigs than octopodes, and so it’s much more entrenched. Constituents would be much more likely to see it as an attack on their rights, and in all likelihood, the overwhelming majority of California’s legislators personally eat pig, but probably few or none of them ever eat octopus.
      • The lobby for pig farming is much, much stronger than that for octopus farming.
      • Because of the above two factors (entrenchment and corporate astroturfing) not being very present for octopus farming, the fact that they’re sentient and highly intelligent has been allowed to seep into the public consciousness in a way that the overwhelming evidence for e.g. intelligence in pigs simply hasn’t.
      • The economic impact of even slightly curtailing pig farming would likely dwarf that of even outright banning octopus farming.

      None of these are good excuses not to ban pig farming; they’re simply reasons I think it’s not likely in the foreseeable future.

      • @[email protected]English
        5•3 months ago

        I had the same discussion with my wife this weekend. She works in the restaurant industry and was offered a taste for the new octopus dish they’re going to sell, but she rejected it because octopus are intelligent and she dosen’t want to eat something intelligent, so I inquire her about how we eat pork at home pretty regularly and pigs arw actually smarter that dogs and she didn’t knew what to say.

        • @PlantJamEnglish
          3•3 months ago

          That seems like a great opportunity for further discussion. Even small changes like having one night a week that is meatless can be beneficial, i.e. Meatless Mondays. A big moment of progress for my household was when my partner fell in love with a soy taco dish I started making.

          • @[email protected]English
            1•3 months ago

            We’re not vegans or even vegetarians, but we aren’t close up to eat vegan from time ro time. There this Indian/Mexican (?) vegan restaurant close my office that we go sometimes, and this artisan beer place that have a mushrooms burger that we love.