• @stoly
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    92 months ago

    I truly get the rage and betrayal. I don’t get diluting the vote so that someone you want less wins.

    • abff08f4813c
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      21 month ago

      It shows the importance of this one issue over everything else, to these voters, how greatly it overshadows.

      I’ve been doing a lot of hard thinking on this problem, and here’s what I’ve come up with.

      Basically, it’s impossible to come up with a position that supports both. The middle ground compromise (hate war, two state solution, Israel should stop but also has a right to defend itself) doesn’t get enough of the Jewish vote (too hard on not letting Israel defend itself adequately or getting hostages freed, from their POV) but also not enough of the Muslim vote (too easy on Israel after committing war crimes as per ICC and various UN body rulings).

      Instead, Harris should say her views are evolving but she needs to hear from voters more. She is willing to support both the pro-Israel and the pro-Palestine positions, but will defer her decision until a post-election referendum.

      The US doesn’t have a system for national referendums, but I’m sure she can get the Census Bureau to up with one via Executive Order.

      Then, the referendum just asks eligible folks what their views are. Since it’s not an official vote, we can have non-citizens responding too (since many non-citizens such as green card holders or work visa holders pay taxes, I feel this is reasonable). Harris then simply obeys the mandate given by the referendum.

      In the mean time, these folks who were holding out on Harris previously can now vote for her with a clean conscience and also put their energy into getting the vote out for the upcoming referendum!

    • Socialist Mormon SatanistOP
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      2 months ago

      Maybe the Democratic Party would benefit from being more welcoming to undecided voters instead of instantly accusing them of being Trump supporters, idiots, or traitors. Just from the hate and vitriol I get from some people here on Lemmy, I can confidently say I’ll never vote Democrat.

      • @stoly
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        122 months ago

        lol lol you just outed yourself as a Trump supporter

        • Socialist Mormon SatanistOP
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          2 months ago

          How so? I’m not voting for Trump. Never have. Never would.

          So how exactly was I “outed”? Do you have any examples of where I say I am supporting Trump?

          • @stoly
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            102 months ago

            We’re done. You’re in it for the rage and I refuse to participate.

            • @[email protected]
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              62 months ago

              They’re actually in it for the money. They average something like a post or comment every 15 minutes and can be seen switching personalities (from aggressively fake to just aggressive), they are multiple people likely getting paid to spread propaganda to split the blue vote

            • Socialist Mormon SatanistOP
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              -172 months ago

              I’m not in anything for the rage. And I feel no rage. Are you feeling rage because I pointed out that you were incorrect?! Wow. Ok.

      • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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        92 months ago

        I was going to vote for Rachelle Fruit but your behavior has convinced me to proudly vote for Harris!