• @SelfProgrammed
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    To Democrats, “elites” mean your in some top percentile of wealth and income. To Republicans, “elites” means having a college degree.

    • @[email protected]
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      So they basically turned anti elitism to anti intellectualism so they can fool their audience.

      I mean, I thought we all knew that.

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        I wonder what kind of people ran on anti-intellectualism in the past? Maybe around the time of UdSSR, or some German leader? Maybe some famous leader in Cambodia as well?

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          Yep, my comment was more about how this is kind of a tail as old as time thing.

          Basically mob mentality.

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    • @Tyfud
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      This is the correct answer to the question the Guardian poses. I’ve lived among them and can 100% confirm this is how they think.

      Elites is all about having a college degree and being “book smart” vs their “street smart” or “wise in the ways of man” sort of bullshit charlatans throughout history have used to make up for a lack of critical thinking skills.

      • @TropicalDingdong
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        It really is the right answer. But I think we can sharpen it if we look at how the media around Democrats elevates and highlights elitism as a quality to be pursued, for example, in a candidate.

        A great example of this was the treatment of Pete Buttigieg, and specific media outlets elevation of him to a nationally relevant political actor. Harvard, then Oxford Rhodes scholar then a decade long McKinseyite (that alone should have disbarred him from running for president), then intelligence officer US Navy. He was the definition of “qualified” to the CNN and NPR editorial boards.

        But how well had only political bonafides were a failed run for treasurer in Indiana, and a mayoral victory where he garnered all of 10k votes. So the guy has never actually won any significant state or federal elections. Yet in 2020, suddenly this guys is gets treated like a serious contender in the Democratic primary. Why?

        Democratically aligned corporate press is obsessed with credentials, and specifically, the kind that comes from “elite” schools and organizations. Partially because they themselves also come from these elite schools and organizations.

        • @captainlezbian
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          Very true. The Dems could really stand for more blue collar qualifications. Especially if we treated “local union president” half as well as “McKinsey employee”

        • @[email protected]
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          We really have become addicted to certifications and tags and qualifiers for everyone because it’s easier to “understand” them at a glance and that’s decided as all you need.

          On paper is good enough for far to many, it’s just easier to categorize people and move on.

          Being in your categories is the easiest way to automatically think of then as moral and good because they must be, you are. It’s fucked up both parties. Look at Eric Adams and Marco Rubio.

    • JDPoZ
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      To Republicans, “elites” means having a college degree.

      Also depending on the context can mean “lives in a city” or “pays a mechanic to fix their car instead of gets their hands dirty” or “doesn’t go to church” or “makes fun of country folks / rural people” or “eats any food that isn’t fried or served in a disposable bag and eaten between 2 buns.”

      …But they’re never consistent, b/c they think that Trump, a literal billionaire who lives in a big city, definitely never has gone to church or gotten his hands dirty fixing cars… is somehow not elite.

      …I mean… he probably doesn’t eat anything that isn’t fried / between buns, but that’s about it.

      It’s incomprehensible / inconsistent.

      • @captainlezbian
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        27 hours ago

        It’s also how we talk, how we walk, and that we often come from elsewhere and think differently.

    • @InverseParallax
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      It means the nerds you shoved in lockers who learned to read and now have successful lives while you scrape by trying to make alimony at a job that would pay a living wage if you didn’t live in a right to work state.

      • @captainlezbian
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        See that’s the elitism. Plenty of bullies made it out and plenty of their victims didn’t. Ruthlessness is profitable and you don’t have to be a good person to go to college.

        • @InverseParallax
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          13 hours ago

          How exactly is that elitism? You’re specifically arguing against the meritocracy that they consider elitism, all that fancy book-learnin.

          Their mascot shits on a golden toilet in his own private country club ffs.

          • @captainlezbian
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            You’re assuming everyone stuck in rural America in a shit job with grievances is a shit person who did it to themselves. A lot of them are, especially the die hard republicans, but plenty had hard choices, or any number of other decent reasons beyond just not being smart or something.

            And yeah their mascot is a filthy rich asshole, and a lot of them do suck ass. But also I spend enough time with those people to know plenty of them aren’t terrible but they are sick and tired of being treated like inherently morons for being rural