• Andrew
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      483 months ago

      You can see the video that was originally quoted here: https://xcancel.com/billmaher/status/1844938477512675654#m

      Bill Maher seems aggressively unfunny to me, but the gist of the video is that it’s a open letter to Chappell Roan (who is pro-Palestine), saying that Israelis aren’t colonisers, because the Bible mentions that they built a temple in that area before others in Middle-East settled there. It seems like a questionable claim to me, and there are plenty of replies to the video disagreeing with him.

      • JackGreenEarth
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        513 months ago

        I mean, the Bible also mentions exactly how they drove out and murdered the Canaanites that were living there before them. Sounds like a coloniser to me - not that they were special for doing that, in their day.

        • @[email protected]
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          And we know that that is, historically, bullshit, because Hebrews and Canaanites were related tribes and Judaism is even an outgrowth of the Canaanite pantheon.

      • @[email protected]
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        The bible also says that you’re supposed to murder noncombatants during war. I think we should discount the old testament as a guide of any kind

    • @[email protected]OP
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      133 months ago

      The New Atheist movement led by figures such as Richard Dawkins have recently changed their mind from “all religions bad” to “Islam bad”.

      Richard Dawkins: I’m a Cultural Christian

      This affirm previous suspicions that the most hardcore atheists were simply Islamophobes. Coincidentally they are also the staunchest deniers of the genocide in Gaza.

    • @finitebanjo
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      They’re saying Israel is a US Colony and that Athiests are frauds, particularly Bill Maher for quoting the bible.

      Personally, I think OP and this Medhi Hasan guy can fuck right off, Religion is literally the cause of all of this and thousands of years of conflict in that region on top of that.

      • @voracitude
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        Not “atheists”. “The New Atheists”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Atheism

        And he’s not saying that Israel is a US colony, at all. He’s saying Zionism as an ideology is centred around colonialism in the classic British sense of the word, e.g. “take other people’s shit by force”.

        Frankly, Mehdi isn’t wrong here. Using a religious text as a source for historical information to excuse the genocide in Gaza is antithetical to what Maher says he stands for and makes a hypocrite of him.

      • @School_Lunch
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        Yes and he only cited the Bible to show that jews lived there thousands of years ago. He wasn’t citing the Bible to make any kind of religious claim, so this guy’s comment is completely missing the point.

        • @[email protected]
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          73 months ago

          You shouldn’t cite the Bible as a historical document. The Bible also says that the Jews were slaves in Egypt, but archaeologists say that isn’t true.

          • @School_Lunch
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            The point he was trying to make was that they did live there a long time ago. That fact is collaborated by other sources. He probably should have cited those other sources, but the Bible is just the best known one.