I received my ballot a week ago and I couldn’t bring myself to fill it out yet. I’m scared of another Trump presidency if that is what happens, but I can’t keep supporting Democrats that have become what they claim to hate. I know if I vote for her that I’m sending a message that they can keep using the same playbook to move closer to fascism and corporatocracy.
They use their influence & power to eliminate opposition, and their donor money to astroturf social media. They censor other voices online, and spread lies about other people (Jill Stein) without evidence. They gaslight and claim you’re fascist for telling the truth and blame others for their mistakes. They’ll use your money to pay for genocide while turning a blind eye to help themselves, but make a thousand excused why they can’t help you.
They don’t deserve to win. Trump will be bad and I’m scared about what will happen if he wins, but you and I are not to blame. All they had to do was be truthful, transparent, empathetic and genuine—but their lust for power got in the way.
So vote for Stein and throw your vote away, possibly helping Trump in the long run
Great idea.
I’m not throwing my vote away. I’m sending an important message to those who have become blind to reality. One Israeli life does not equal that of 10 innocent Palestinian children. Kamala doesn’t say stop the massacre now, but instead that we will always support the apartheid state.
Her administration has rewarded the genocide and vetoed the UN. They actively ignore and reject the findings by the ICJ and spread false narratives. I’m done and won’t support it, but go ahead and pretend the genocide is a conspiracy theory.
And Jill refuses to say Putin is a war criminal, but instead will always support him.
How many Ukrainian lives are worth one Palestinian life?
She absolutely did and you must not be paying attention. Go watch her Zeteo interview. Stein does real interviews not PR stunts from her donors.
Don’t gaslight me. I was paying very close attention. She clearly avoided calling Putin a war criminal. And she was given many opportunities:
Mehdi Hasan: So you called Netanyahu one, which I think he is.
Jill Stein: Oh, absolutely.
Mehdi Hasan: Is Putin a war criminal?
Jill Stein: So what we said about Putin was that his invasion of Ukraine is a criminal and murderous war.
Mehdi Hasan: And he’s a war criminal who should be on trial?
Jill Stein: Well, by implication.
Mehdi Hasan: You’re struggling here to say something very simple. This is why people have their doubts about you with Russia. Why is Benjamin Netanyahu a war criminal but not Vladimir Putin?
Jill Stein: Well, as John F. Kennedy said, “We must not negotiate out of fear and we must not fear to negotiate.” So if you want to be an effective world leader, you don’t start by name calling and hurling out that.
Mehdi Hasan: So how will President Stein negotiate with Israel then, if you’ve called Netanyahu a war criminal?
Jill Stein: Well, because he very clearly is a war criminal.
Mehdi Hasan: Oh, so Putin clearly isn’t a war criminal?
Jill Stein: Well, we don’t have a decision, put it this way, by the International Criminal Court.
Mehdi Hasan: Yes, we do. Yes, actually, actually, you’re wrong. There’s an arrest warrant for Putin and there isn’t an arrest warrant for Netanyahu, so why is Putin not a war criminal, but Netanyahu is?
Jill Stein: Yeah. Well, let me say this. We are sponsoring that war. We are sponsoring Netanyahu. He is our dog in this fight. That is why we have a responsibility to pull him back.
Mehdi Hasan: No disagreement from me at all. It still doesn’t answer my question. Whether we sponsor them or not is irrelevant.
Jill Stein: With Russia it’s far more complicated.
Mehdi Hasan: Either you’re a war criminal or you’re not. Is Vladimir Putin a war criminal?
Jill Stein: In so many words, yes he is.
Mehdi Hasan: I don’t know “what so many words” - Butch, is Vladimir Putin a war criminal?
Jill Stein: Let me say that whatever you think he is -
Mehdi Hasan: It’s not about what I think. I’m asking you. You’re running for President.
Jill Stein: If you want to pull him back, if you are a world leader, you don’t begin your conversation by calling someone a war criminal unless you have a…
Mehdi Hasan: So why have you called Biden and Netanyahu war criminals?
Jill Stein: Because we have a clear strategy and we have very strong support across the world.
She calls him a war criminal at least there times there and you’re so blind you don’t even recognize it. Now go ask Kamala about her master Netanyahu. Has she called Netanyahu a war criminal? Oh she must be an Israeli agent according to your logic.
I’m afraid you’re the one who refuses to see.
Jill Stein only used the words “war criminal” twice in that segment, and in both cases she wasn’t referring to Putin.
In fact, she spent less time talking about his war crimes than on explaining why one shouldn’t call Putin a war criminal.
She absolutely referred to Putin as a war criminal 3 times but didn’t repeat Mehdi’s exact words like a parrot 🦜 Come back when Kamala calls Netanyahu a war criminal and I’ll demand Stein use stronger language for you. At this point you have no standing.
She didn’t repeat what Mehdi said because she didn’t want to be quoted saying Putin is a war criminal.
But instead she said this:
“Hurl out that?” What exactly do you not want to hurl out, Jill?
Ok, so Jill is no better than Kamala when it comes to being “anti-genocide”. Glad that’s cleared up.
The important message you’re sending is ‘I would like to piss away my vote, thanks.’
No, the message you send is… “I’ll vote for genocide and tell you who you should vote for cause democracy.”
Jill Stains won’t stop it
I’m not telling you who to vote for, this is a democracy, you’re free to piss away your vote if you want to.
I agree with you, war is not the answer. But realistically speaking, what kind of chance does a third party candidate have? Does this help illustrate it?
The point for people to vote for Stein isn’t cause she’ll win this election. It’s to send a message. Kamala didn’t earn my vote and her supporters harassing, threatening, and slandering me nonstop doesn’t help. Everyone is entitled to vote for who they want and Democrats have crossed into the voter intimidation category. Like I said, Democrats are heading towards fascism and their supporters will allow it.
Ok, if we get Trump, you helped it happen.
If Trump gets elected you and Kamalacide helped it happen.
That makes no sense. Good luck with your single digit voting percentages and “having your voice heard”. Harris is the one chance this country has against descending into chaos and you’re out here gambling on it. Here, a little excerpt from Wikipedia regarding the 2016 election:
Russians worked to boost the Stein campaign as part of the effort to siphon support away from Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and tilt the election to Trump."You’re right where they want you. Angry and willing to throw your votes away, towards a candidate that doesn’t have a semblance of a chance, in a country that doesn’t give a fuck about your individual voice. You only have a chance if you’re in the majority.
Welcome to reality.
They boosted Bernie Sanders as well. Are you saying Bernie is a Russian agent because they boosted a campaign?
I’m not buying, “yeah Kamala’s statements and policy on Israel are pretty bad, but Trump is worse” argument. Find a better candidate or demand she change her tune.
I’m not saying that. I’m saying they’ll do anything to divert you from the only chance you have at some semblance of a functioning democracy.
You’re voting for the Russian asset.
She is actively against the Ukrainian war and has stated Putin should be arrested and charged with war crimes. You’re full of it and making things up to try to boost your terrible candidate.
She’s cooperated in multiple inquiries and there is no evidence that she’s a Russian agent. So predictable though. Do you see them wherever you go? Do you need a schizophrenia mental health hotline?