Who considers female on male abuse funny?
I have yet too see any feminist, any worker in a shelter, any of those, find any kind of domestic violence funny.
I’m not talking about Xitter pen keyboard heroes here. I mean real people.
Who’s laughing at violence against men?
Taters, conservatives, and their kind, high representatives of the most toxic masculinity.
You clearly can’t begin to fathom what’s it’s like for people who experienced violence and domestic violence. I’ve never seen a female survivor not listening to a male survivor. I’ve never seen a left wing feminist working with female survivors not taking a male survivor seriously.
Actually, from my experience, which, I think, is significant at least in my country and generation, they’re literally the ONLY ONES who take them seriously (except some of their close ones, friends and family, of course - not all will, but some may).
I’ve never seen a female survivor not listening to a male survivor.
Ime irl, I’d agree with this. Victims usually empathise with me (also victim) and I do with them.
I’ve never seen a left wing feminist working with female survivors not taking a male survivor seriously.
I absolutely have. I mean there’s one in this thread first off, but since you said “no onlinesies” as if the people typing on those keyboards aren’t real, many feminists I’ve met IRL actively disdain men and call those that speak about their issues “MRA activists” as a synonym for incel, many say things like “all men” or “not all men but always a man” which lumps me in with the abusers and pretends my rapists are victims. Hell in my area, women can’t be charged with rape because it requires penetration to fit the legal definition, that certainly isn’t “taking male survivors seriously,” and is the left talking about that at all? No, I am the only one speaking out about it, most people around here don’t even know that, go figure.
Of course yes men don’t take us seriously either, but from my experience only victims care about other victims and there certainly are avowed feminists that not only don’t take me seriously but actively dislike me for speaking about my abuse.
…and yet federal domestic violence law in US was full of explicitly gendered language and until fairly recently (I haven’t read over the last two revisions of it in detail), had things like having the standard anti-discrimination boilerplate and then following it with that funded programs were allowed to discriminate with respect to actual or perceived sex or gender if the program felt it was necessary, so long as an alternative was available (no requirement to even give lipservice to it being equivalent), but elsewhere that all funded programs must serve women (hint: they weren’t thinking about non-binary people when they were thinking of who that would exclude).
Or Title IX implementation. Title IX literally says that federally funded educational programs cannot discriminate with respect to sex. The implementation of that very simple notion includes things like if a girl wants to play a school sport but there isn’t a girls team she must be allowed to try out for the boys team and be allowed to play if she can perform at their level. If a boy wants to play a school sport but there isn’t a boys team, he’s SOL. Equality!https://www.nfhs.org/articles/title-ix-compliance-part-iv-frequently-asked-questions/
The first men’s DV shelter in Canada was repeatedly denied funding specifically because it wasn’t a women’s shelter until the guy running it couldn’t keep it open from his own finances and private donations. When he shut it down, he hung himself in the garage.
Who considers female on male abuse funny? I have yet too see any feminist, any worker in a shelter, any of those, find any kind of domestic violence funny.
I’m not talking about Xitter pen keyboard heroes here. I mean real people.
Who’s laughing at violence against men?
Taters, conservatives, and their kind, high representatives of the most toxic masculinity.
You clearly can’t begin to fathom what’s it’s like for people who experienced violence and domestic violence. I’ve never seen a female survivor not listening to a male survivor. I’ve never seen a left wing feminist working with female survivors not taking a male survivor seriously.
Actually, from my experience, which, I think, is significant at least in my country and generation, they’re literally the ONLY ONES who take them seriously (except some of their close ones, friends and family, of course - not all will, but some may).
Look through this thread. Look at the people bitching about the comic. But please keep telling me how much kinder and better women are.
Ime irl, I’d agree with this. Victims usually empathise with me (also victim) and I do with them.
I absolutely have. I mean there’s one in this thread first off, but since you said “no onlinesies” as if the people typing on those keyboards aren’t real, many feminists I’ve met IRL actively disdain men and call those that speak about their issues “MRA activists” as a synonym for incel, many say things like “all men” or “not all men but always a man” which lumps me in with the abusers and pretends my rapists are victims. Hell in my area, women can’t be charged with rape because it requires penetration to fit the legal definition, that certainly isn’t “taking male survivors seriously,” and is the left talking about that at all? No, I am the only one speaking out about it, most people around here don’t even know that, go figure.
Of course yes men don’t take us seriously either, but from my experience only victims care about other victims and there certainly are avowed feminists that not only don’t take me seriously but actively dislike me for speaking about my abuse.
…and yet federal domestic violence law in US was full of explicitly gendered language and until fairly recently (I haven’t read over the last two revisions of it in detail), had things like having the standard anti-discrimination boilerplate and then following it with that funded programs were allowed to discriminate with respect to actual or perceived sex or gender if the program felt it was necessary, so long as an alternative was available (no requirement to even give lipservice to it being equivalent), but elsewhere that all funded programs must serve women (hint: they weren’t thinking about non-binary people when they were thinking of who that would exclude).
Or Title IX implementation. Title IX literally says that federally funded educational programs cannot discriminate with respect to sex. The implementation of that very simple notion includes things like if a girl wants to play a school sport but there isn’t a girls team she must be allowed to try out for the boys team and be allowed to play if she can perform at their level. If a boy wants to play a school sport but there isn’t a boys team, he’s SOL. Equality! https://www.nfhs.org/articles/title-ix-compliance-part-iv-frequently-asked-questions/
The first men’s DV shelter in Canada was repeatedly denied funding specifically because it wasn’t a women’s shelter until the guy running it couldn’t keep it open from his own finances and private donations. When he shut it down, he hung himself in the garage.