This. Fucking this. We can only win next time if we let them know now that they are terrible people who made terrible choices. That will definitely lead to victory.
Only 64 million people and still counting voted for Harris. This strategy would have us turn against everyone else in the US and allow the fascists to outnumber us by our own hands. It is a useless strategy. Organizing with everyone we can against fascists is how we win. We outnumber them.
It is. There are 340 million people in the US. 70 million and counting voted for Trump. 270 million people is greater than 70 million. And odds are fascists are still the minority in that group.
The number one issue polled for Republican voters was the economy. People bought the Fox News bullshit and now the economy is going to crash because of Trump’s policies. Musk said as much.
I like to think most people will have a wake up moment between being rounded up in death camps and digging their own mass graves. We need to organize to tell them sooner than that so they can do something about it before it’s too late.
Donno, modern people seem to be content with whatever is happening around them. Last UK election we had fewer overall votes even though it’s still important. So far it looks like US election had 18milliom fewer votes than last time…
I am distraught as to how people can care so little
340 - (74 million children + 70 million Trump voters + 68 million Harris Voters) = 128 million nonvoters, some of who are probably not eligible for one reason or another, so a conservative estimate of 100 million nonvoters
Regardless the worst case estimate from 2018 is 11 million people in the US are fascists. That’s a good ball park number to work with anyway. The nonvoters outnumber the fascists almost ten to one.
Things don’t deserve to get even worse because people let them get worse. This is why accelerationism is inherently a false promise, because no matter how bad things get accelerationists want to watch them get even worse. Accelerationism can’t make things better because the only way to do that is to actively make them better.
It was never about stopping genocide because the US burning to the ground would involve the genocide of tens of millions of people and allow dictatorships to continue genocides and start new genocides all over the world.
It was never about leftism because now the far-right is in the position to prosecute their political rivals and send the armed forces after their ideological opposition.
It was never about helping anyone because now the Republicans can replace the government with MAGA loyalists and defund any social program that could have helped people.
It was about destroying a country that shattered their self-image as a good person. Accelerationists felt like they had blood on their hands by association of being a US citizen and they wanted revenge for the damage to their ego. They were duped. The scam was different but they contributed to the same fascist takeover as the Republican voters who had been duped by Fox News.
We have between now and the death camps to fix this. Start by learning this. We don’t live in a moral universe, but a physics-based universe. Acting in a way that feels morally right isn’t guaranteed to achieve the goal it is subjectively morally consistent with. But it is a way to be conned by people who will offer a way to absolve a person of their country’s guilt.
Also, if you fail to vote against a fascist… 😬
This. Fucking this. We can only win next time if we let them know now that they are terrible people who made terrible choices. That will definitely lead to victory.
Only 64 million people and still counting voted for Harris. This strategy would have us turn against everyone else in the US and allow the fascists to outnumber us by our own hands. It is a useless strategy. Organizing with everyone we can against fascists is how we win. We outnumber them.
If only that were evident by the fucking people that showed up to vote.
It is. There are 340 million people in the US. 70 million and counting voted for Trump. 270 million people is greater than 70 million. And odds are fascists are still the minority in that group.
The number one issue polled for Republican voters was the economy. People bought the Fox News bullshit and now the economy is going to crash because of Trump’s policies. Musk said as much.
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/elon-musk-trump-hardship-austerity-taxes-rcna177732
The issue is the remaining millions don’t actually care enough to vote. They are happy with anything.
They are unlikely to be happy with being murdered by fascists in death camps.
Well they seem to be happy not to do anything about this…
I like to think most people will have a wake up moment between being rounded up in death camps and digging their own mass graves. We need to organize to tell them sooner than that so they can do something about it before it’s too late.
Donno, modern people seem to be content with whatever is happening around them. Last UK election we had fewer overall votes even though it’s still important. So far it looks like US election had 18milliom fewer votes than last time…
I am distraught as to how people can care so little
A large portion of that 340 million legally cannot vote. ~74 million are children.
340 - (74 million children + 70 million Trump voters + 68 million Harris Voters) = 128 million nonvoters, some of who are probably not eligible for one reason or another, so a conservative estimate of 100 million nonvoters
Regardless the worst case estimate from 2018 is 11 million people in the US are fascists. That’s a good ball park number to work with anyway. The nonvoters outnumber the fascists almost ten to one.
https://www.vox.com/2018/8/10/17670992/study-white-americans-alt-right-racism-white-nationalists
Fascists still won. This country deserves to burn to the ground.
Things don’t deserve to get even worse because people let them get worse. This is why accelerationism is inherently a false promise, because no matter how bad things get accelerationists want to watch them get even worse. Accelerationism can’t make things better because the only way to do that is to actively make them better.
It was never about stopping genocide because the US burning to the ground would involve the genocide of tens of millions of people and allow dictatorships to continue genocides and start new genocides all over the world.
It was never about leftism because now the far-right is in the position to prosecute their political rivals and send the armed forces after their ideological opposition.
It was never about helping anyone because now the Republicans can replace the government with MAGA loyalists and defund any social program that could have helped people.
It was about destroying a country that shattered their self-image as a good person. Accelerationists felt like they had blood on their hands by association of being a US citizen and they wanted revenge for the damage to their ego. They were duped. The scam was different but they contributed to the same fascist takeover as the Republican voters who had been duped by Fox News.
We have between now and the death camps to fix this. Start by learning this. We don’t live in a moral universe, but a physics-based universe. Acting in a way that feels morally right isn’t guaranteed to achieve the goal it is subjectively morally consistent with. But it is a way to be conned by people who will offer a way to absolve a person of their country’s guilt.