• @cabron_offsets
    link
    1899 hours ago

    Big ups to those people who “voted against genocide”.

      • @tootoughtoremember
        link
        35
        edit-2
        5 hours ago

        folks that voted third party because “my state will be blue”

        Admittedly not all the votes are in, but…

        • Pennsylvania - Trump up by 130k votes, Jill Stein got 33k votes
        • Michigan - Trump up by 84k votes, Jill Stein got 45k votes
        • Wisconsin - Trump up by 28k votes, Jill Stein got 12k votes

        Are all Jill Stein votes from protest voters? Nah, there are diehard Green supporters out there.

        Are there other 3rd party candidates? Of course, but how many RFK (more votes than Stein in WI) voters could she have converted? Almost none.

        This was her blue wall road to victory, show me the electoral path to victory ruined by third party voters who would have otherwise voted Democrat.

        This election was lost by people not showing up to vote. Trump is sitting at almost 72M votes right now compared to 74M in 2020. Harris is only at 67M now, compared to Biden’s 81M in 2020. While there are still votes to count, there aren’t 15M votes left to count.

        Whether it was lack of interest, protest, or whatever reason, 10% of voters stayed home this year.

        • Omega
          link
          129 minutes ago

          I blame the Stein voters exactly as much as I blame the people staying at home. And neither as much as the people who voted for Trump.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          154 hours ago

          My election registration got canceled three times this year. The last two times it was because of a “duplicate”, and they were counting my canceled registrations as duplicates. I have no idea if my ballot got counted, or if it was discarded.

          I vote blue in one of those red states…

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            442 minutes ago

            Similar here actually. I usually try to vote by mail, but by the time I finally got registeration and residency handled after 2 online registrations and two visits to the elections office, early voting was over, so I had to go to the polls on election day

        • @LovableSidekick
          link
          -14 hours ago

          “Admittedly not all the votes are in, but…” you’ll pretend to make a point with vote counts anyway.

          I am so fucking sick of all this shit.

          • @tootoughtoremember
            link
            7
            edit-2
            4 hours ago
            • Pennsylvania - 98.3% Reporting
            • Michigan - 98.7% Reporting
            • Wisconsin - 99% Reporting

            These states have been called for Trump. The remaining outstanding vote will not impact this result. The remaining vote is not going to come in all for Jill Stein or other third party candidates. The point that protest votes for third party candidates did not rob Harris of an electoral college victory will stand once 100% of the vote is in.

            • @LovableSidekick
              link
              64 hours ago

              Okay, now you’ve supplied enough information to validate what you’re saying. Thanks.

      • @TheBraveSirRobbin
        link
        55
        edit-2
        6 hours ago

        I thought my state would go blue. Went out to vote anyway and voted blue. Brought my spouse out to vote as well. Our state did not go blue. Country is fucked

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        21
        edit-2
        6 hours ago

        No state had enough third party votes to flip red to blue had they all gone blue, so can we give this a rest?

        The DNC failed, plain and simple.

          • @LovableSidekick
            link
            105 hours ago

            And Pennsylvania and Georgia. The so-called swing states really took a wild swing this time.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            4
            edit-2
            5 hours ago

            Got me there, though if you look and tally only the left candidates who might’ve actually gone for Harris otherwise it’s still not true.

            And in any case, she still loses even if she got these states.

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
          link
          fedilink
          English
          6
          edit-2
          6 hours ago

          But they wanna blame someone who doesn’t impact anything! Why blame a bad campaign when you can blame 0.03% of the voters!

        • SatansMaggotyCumFartOP
          link
          35 hours ago

          No state had enough third party votes to flip red to blue had they all gone blue, so can we give this a rest?

        • @LovableSidekick
          link
          15 hours ago

          I actually think people who think any part of politics is “plain and simple” are the real problem.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            54 hours ago

            “The real problem” sounds pretty plain and simple that.

            Seriously though what are you saying? What’s the point of that statement?

            They failed, that’s plain and simple. The cause behind that? Probably more complicated.

            • @LovableSidekick
              link
              -14 hours ago

              Yeah, and since it sounds pretty much that way, it definitely is that way and you win the internet argument, right?

              I think the main problem in discussing most issues is that people oversimply them. Memes and meme-level thinking don’t get to the essence of an issue, they just pretend to by expressing a single point of view, reinforcing the false belief that the whole issue is plain and simple, and excusing people for not bothering to exert their brains much before the scroll to the next item in their feed.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      328 hours ago

      Taking the data from here and throwing it in a spreadsheet, Trump got more votes than everyone else combined, including the Libertarian party, RFK Jr, and Write-ins.

      • SatansMaggotyCumFartOP
        link
        168 hours ago

        Looking at that chart, she would have won in Wisconsin and gotten their ten electoral votes.

        What does it look like for the rest of the states?

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          68 hours ago

          Across the country, it was Trump: 71,825,780 Everyone else: 69,303,000

          It says at the top of the page it was last updated a day ago, but I kind of doubt the numbers will change too dramatically.

          • AFK BRB Chocolate
            link
            English
            76 hours ago

            The other person was making the point that you can’t do it by total popular vote, you have to do it by state and then look at their electoral college votes.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              -56 hours ago

              But the electoral college is dumb and pointless. This is the first time a Republican won the popular vote since 2004, or since 1988 if you don’t want to count an incumbent victory. That alone should tell you plenty about the state of the country right now.

              • AFK BRB Chocolate
                link
                English
                34 hours ago

                It’s dumb and pointless, but it’s literally the way a president is elected today. We have had many instances of people being elected president who didn’t win the popular vote. So if you want to try to figure out if third party candidates caused Trump to get elected, you have to look at it state by state.

              • @[email protected]
                link
                fedilink
                45 hours ago

                But the electoral college is dumb and pointless

                And its also how a president is elected in the United States, or 2016 would have gone a bit differently.

          • @ABCDE
            link
            9
            edit-2
            7 hours ago

            67m for Harris to 72m (rounded up) on the BBC; it was really not close eh.

            • Optional
              link
              146 hours ago

              Biden got 81.2 million.

              How the fuck are people not voting. After all that.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        -37 hours ago

        But how do you count “didn’t vote”? And what about “voted on other parts but not for President because genocide or whatever”? That second group might be countable, but the first is like proving a negative

    • @Darorad
      link
      268 hours ago

      Honestly, it doesn’t matter, even if every single 3rd party voter went for Harris, Trump still wins

    • @LovableSidekick
      link
      35 hours ago

      Yeah I heard halo polish is on sale at Walmart, they should check it out.