Summary

In Wayne County, Arab American precincts rejected Kamala Harris, with Biden receiving 82% of the vote in 2020 and Harris only 23% in 2024.

Trump’s outreach to Arab American and Muslim communities, including visits to Dearborn and Hamtramck, contributed to his increased support.

Harris’s performance in Dearborn, where she received only 13% of the vote in the south end, reflects the backlash against Biden’s handling of foreign policy in the Middle East.

  • @EndlessApollo
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    -911 days ago

    Harris could’ve fixed that by promising not to blow up Palestine. This is purely on her and Biden for being unelectable, not on people refusing to vote for someone who will wipe them out

    • @cm0002
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      not on people refusing to vote for someone who will wipe them out

      Man I totally forgot Trump is actually a peace loving, human-rights respecting person and totally won’t give Israel a blank check. Can’t wait for the news article about how Trump’s totally gonna get Israel to stop!

      Good thing we didn’t vote in BlUe MagA right guys?

      • Sam Tamaskan
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        811 days ago

        I’m afraid these guys are incapable of complex morale situations, not understanding how the lines are blurred in most situations. They just want everything to be good or bad, nothing in between.

        • @SmilingSolaris
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          -311 days ago

          Let’s not stop the genocide, instead let’s advocate for lil genocide. It’s a compromise with BIG genocide. Oh no, that plan didn’t work, the people who wanted genocide voted for big genocide. And the people who wanted no genocide didn’t vote. Damn those no genocide voters, don’t they know that a lil genocide is better than big genocide?

          I will learn nothing from this and do it again.

          • @jordanlundM
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            611 days ago

            Weird how repeatedly calling for an immediate cease fire and a two state solution in Israel = “lil genocide”.

            March - https://www.npr.org/2024/03/04/1234822836/kamala-harris-benny-gantz-gaza-cease-fire-israel-hamas

            “Monday’s meeting in Washington, D.C., comes one day after Harris called for an immediate, temporary cease-fire in Gaza to facilitate an exchange of Israeli hostages for Palestinian prisoners and detainees. Harris is expected to continue pressing Israel to pause the fighting and allow more humanitarian aid into Gaza.”

            July - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/25/harris-netanyahu-israel-cease-fire-00171315

            “Vice President Kamala Harris met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in private Thursday and followed it with a strikingly forceful call on his government to get a cease-fire deal done and ease the suffering of civilians in Gaza.”

            September - https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024/card/harris-calls-for-ceasefire-in-gaza-while-trump-claims-she-hates-israel--isokhfqmy6EgRGrUOSuK

            “Vice President Kamala Harris reiterated her call for a ceasefire-for-hostage deal in Gaza while expressing sympathy for both Israelis and Palestinians affected by the conflict. Harris condemned the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas on southern Israel but said “far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed” by Israel’s ongoing military offensive in Gaza.”

            Do you get something out of mis-representing what she said and did? Or were you just not actually paying attention?

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              Immediate ceasefire was also Biden’s publicly stated position. While he was sending 2,000 pound bombs. Which are not a defensive weapon in any military’s playbook.

              And US law doesn’t distinguish. All military aid should have stopped the minute USAID made the determination that Israel was withholding food from Gaza. Both the Foreign Assistance Act and the Leahy Law make this clear. And this is after the mountains of evidence that Israel was systematically bombing concentrations of IDPs and aid workers, and using Palestinians as human shields. Any one of which would have shut off military aid to any other country.

              So you have the Vice President saying the same thing as her President while he’s violating the law to fund a genocide. This isn’t shocking. The Arab Americans in Michigan are human. Expecting them to vote for the person who won’t make herself meaningfully different on the issue is a fools errand. It doesn’t get worse from their point of view, there is no super genocide.

            • @WrenFeathers
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              111 days ago

              Careful now… you might end up with a song written about you!

            • @SmilingSolaris
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              -711 days ago

              Mhm mhm. Now find me one of them saying they will stop sending Israel weapons.

              “Please stop committing the Holocaust Germany. Btw here is a new batch of missiles to fight Poland”

              • @D1G17AL
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                611 days ago

                Move the goal posts more. Pathetic.

              • @jordanlundM
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                111 days ago

                They send Israel weapons to defend themselves from attack by hostile forces. Israel has the right to do that.

                If you want to blame Netanyahu for misappropriating defense supplies, that’s absolutely fair, but that’s NOT why Israel is being supplied.

                https://www.npr.org/2024/08/23/g-s1-19232/kamala-harris-israel-gaza-dnc

                “Let me be clear, I will always stand up for Israel’s right to defend itself and I will always ensure Israel has the ability to defend itself,” she said tonight. She said that Israelis should “never again” go through the horror and “unspeakable” attacks of Oct. 7.

                “At the same time what has happened in Gaza in the past 10 months is devastating. So many innocent lives lost. The scale of suffering is heartbreaking,”

                None of this is supporting genocide in any way, shape, or form. If you believe it is, please supply a source showing Biden or Harris giving free reign for Israel to do what they want.

                You know, like this:

                https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21faee332d95fec99652c112fbdcd35d

                “They’re losing the PR war. They’re losing it big. But they’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”

                Oh, wait, no, that’s Trump.

                  • @jordanlundM
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                    111 days ago

                    Clearly you are faking your outrage if you can’t spell “palestinian”. You’re rumbled. Banned for trolling.

        • @EndlessApollo
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          Nah, I just don’t like Palestinians being ethnically cleansed by weapons I paid for. Wish liberals could say the same, but yall believe genocide is a necessary sacrifice to gain power

          • @cm0002
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            Palestinians being ethnically cleansed by weapons I paid for.

            Well good news! Now your taxes will pay for the ethnical cleansing of Palestinians AND Americans with Trump! Congratulations!!

          • Billiam
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            Nah, I just don’t like Palestinians being ethnically cleansed by weapons I paid for.

            Then explain in detail how allowing Trump to be President achieves this goal. Go on. Do it.

      • @EndlessApollo
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        -1211 days ago

        You know people voted for candidates other than Harris and trump right? Like Arab americans voting for 3rd party candidates that haven’t promised to wipe out Gaza?

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          The third-parties that have never had a chance in hell of winning EVER.

          A THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE HAS NEVER FUCKING WON THE PRESIDENCY IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING MODERN HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES.

          ITS NEVER GOING TO FUCKING HAPPEN WITHOUT A MAJOR CHANGE IN THE ELECTION PROCESS ACROSS ALL 50 STATES

          • @EndlessApollo
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            If the next dem candidate for president promises mandatory conversion therapy for trans people, I won’t vote for them, period. Guess that makes me a selfish nazi huh?

            • @cm0002
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              511 days ago

              Nice redirection!

              • @EndlessApollo
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                -311 days ago

                You redirected by bringing up that 3rd party candidates don’t win. That’s not the point for people that vote for them bc democrats abandoned/actively work against them. I think it prob would’ve been smarter to just vote for harris, but imo it’s very unempathetic and sanctimonious saying trump got elected bc people weren’t willing to vote for democrats who hate/don’t care about them or their rights

    • Sam Tamaskan
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      1211 days ago

      So allow the candidate to supercharge the extermination to win? That’s one helluva strategy. Certainly one way to try and shift the blame to one side when there’s plenty to go around for both dems and the uncommitted

      • @EndlessApollo
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        -1011 days ago

        Yet you only ever complain about how “the uncommitted” are the problem, and never dems 🤔

        • Sam Tamaskan
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          611 days ago

          Having trouble reading my comment, buddy? I literally said “uncommitted and dems”. Both are trying to blame the other, when in reality both have played a hand. No one’s hands are clean in this

          • @EndlessApollo
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            -1011 days ago

            You’re not any less obvious than someone who sees “fuck nazis” and says “fuck nazis AND communists”. Your problem isn’t liberals, hence why you never complain about them and only complain about others, despite claiming both are at fault. If yall liberals really still think leftists believe any of your transparent lies, you’re very mistaken

            • Sam Tamaskan
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              211 days ago

              Pointing out uncommitted and 3rd party voters are just as much to blame for trump regaining office as liberal democrats are isn’t not the same thing as responding to “fuck nazis” with “fuck nazis and communists.” One is expressing an opinion which gives away your character while the other one points out the roles both groups made. You may not like it, but defaulting to not voting for either of the two parties in a 2-party system doesn’t make you innocent of the fact that the worst elect won in part because of a choice you and many others made. The lib politicians and leaders are assholes, but they were miles better than trump. But I guess you’re thinking otherwise with the way you throw “liberal” around like an insult to everyone you disagree with.

            • @kreskin
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              210 days ago

              Its pretty clear now that progressives are a different party entirely than dems.

            • @EndlessApollo
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              -711 days ago

              Wait are you even a liberal? I decided to check your profile for the basic libshit but this thread is the only thing you’ve interacted with, sorry if I incorrectly assumed you’re a liberal

              • @davidagain
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                111 days ago

                You had a big argument with someone not because of what they said but because of what you believed that also believed?! Now you think they believe something different it’s all OK? Weird.