I don’t think i get why people hate cops. I live in a country with a great deal of police violence that is not the united states.
We won’t be better without the police, not having police won’t solve our violence or our crime rate. Having better social programs, and better investment in education will.
The origin of the police in the US was a group hired in a state by the governor to return slaves to their slave owners.
Then they were contracted to protect the properties of the wealthy slave owners when there was a revolt about capturing slaves (some who were “free men”),and they put down that revolt with violence.
Since then, police have been conscripted to protect wealth from the lower class, by the wealthy. That was, and has been their main purpose in the US. It is not to protect and serve, that’s just a slogan they made up out of thin air and has no legal backing or requirement.
They exist for the wealthy, to stay wealthy and protect their interests/property.
Before the police, we had US Marshals, and that worked great. But they wouldn’t go after slaves for slave owners, so they invented the police.
I’ve heard it called a luxury issue by some. As in an issue that privileged people take up because they already have the privilege of safety and order.
I mean yeah cops disproportionately target certain groups of people. Their training sucks and has the added bonus of making them trigger happy schizos who see crime and offence where it doesn’t exist. But also I think it’s pretty obvious that there needs to be some sort of law enforcement/peace keeping group.
Police reform? I can get behind that. Abolishing police? Sounds kinda dumb.
Police exist to perpetuate the power of those at the top and to repress the people. It is a lie that they exist to defend civilians. They are a means of taking power away from civilians and making us dependent on the state.
What happens then when something bad happens ?
I mean, imagine I get stolen from, beaten, humiliated, etc. I will still need to see someone with some kind of power to do something to make myself whole and hopefully avoid it being repeated on someone else. How do we deal with that without any kind of police ?
I agree. The issue is not the fact that a police exists. The issue is that often, there’s no body in charge of investigating it proper, sure you have Internal Affairs (it you don’t, as here in Germany), but it can’t be part of the police itself. It needs to be an autonomous body that isn’t part of police itself and does nothing but investigate them.
I don’t think i get why people hate cops. I live in a country with a great deal of police violence that is not the united states.
We won’t be better without the police, not having police won’t solve our violence or our crime rate. Having better social programs, and better investment in education will.
The origin of the police in the US was a group hired in a state by the governor to return slaves to their slave owners.
Then they were contracted to protect the properties of the wealthy slave owners when there was a revolt about capturing slaves (some who were “free men”),and they put down that revolt with violence.
Since then, police have been conscripted to protect wealth from the lower class, by the wealthy. That was, and has been their main purpose in the US. It is not to protect and serve, that’s just a slogan they made up out of thin air and has no legal backing or requirement.
They exist for the wealthy, to stay wealthy and protect their interests/property.
Before the police, we had US Marshals, and that worked great. But they wouldn’t go after slaves for slave owners, so they invented the police.
Edit: I’ll include an article that talks about some of this.
I’ve heard it called a luxury issue by some. As in an issue that privileged people take up because they already have the privilege of safety and order.
I mean yeah cops disproportionately target certain groups of people. Their training sucks and has the added bonus of making them trigger happy schizos who see crime and offence where it doesn’t exist. But also I think it’s pretty obvious that there needs to be some sort of law enforcement/peace keeping group.
Police reform? I can get behind that. Abolishing police? Sounds kinda dumb.
Police exist to perpetuate the power of those at the top and to repress the people. It is a lie that they exist to defend civilians. They are a means of taking power away from civilians and making us dependent on the state.
What happens then when something bad happens ? I mean, imagine I get stolen from, beaten, humiliated, etc. I will still need to see someone with some kind of power to do something to make myself whole and hopefully avoid it being repeated on someone else. How do we deal with that without any kind of police ?
I agree. The issue is not the fact that a police exists. The issue is that often, there’s no body in charge of investigating it proper, sure you have Internal Affairs (it you don’t, as here in Germany), but it can’t be part of the police itself. It needs to be an autonomous body that isn’t part of police itself and does nothing but investigate them.