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    517 hours ago

    I told dbzer0 I wouldn’t disrupt vegan spaces when he gave me an account. with that said, I hope we can continue this cordially. if at any point you want me to stop, please say so.

    taste is not an argument for carnism.

    frankly, it is. aesthetic pleasure is one of the great reasons for living. surely, it is part of the self actualization of Maslow’s hierarchy.

    since carnism is so pervasive in society, we must accept that the pleasures associated with it are commonplace. to deny someone a common aesthetic experience in the name of ending carnism needs to be sold. simply saying “it’s not an argument” is, ironically, not an argument.

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      017 hours ago

      I bet those cows wanted some parts of Maslow’s needs as well.

      Why is your self-actualisation more important than a cow’s existence?

      Taste is not argument for carnism because it isn’t just to compare taste to right to exist.

      • @[email protected]
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        415 hours ago

        I don’t personally believe in rights as an external phenomenon. I believe they are a human fiction

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          11 hour ago

          So? Humans have the ability intentionally NOT to kill animals for consumption and the ability to make up rights.

          The externality vs internality of rights discourse doesn’t externalise your personhood with rights.

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            11 hour ago

            your first paragraph seems to imply that I respect rights as a real phenomenon. to be clear, I do not, and so all discourse built up on rights as a premise I also reject.

            I don’t quite follow what you’re saying in your second paragraph.

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              157 minutes ago

              Is this SovCit meeting Stirner? Do I have to say the word?


              Following questions:

              Do you see yourself as human?

              Do you value your life and body integrity? Do you value life and body integrity of other beings, like friends?

              Do you avoid experiencing violence?

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        215 hours ago

        with all due respect, we have no evidence of a cow’s need for self actualization. we can’t even point to evidence of self awareness.