• katy ✨
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    71 month ago

    What’s up with lgbtq nation using the right wing lgb phrasing?

    • NickwithaC
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      401 month ago

      Conclusive data on transgender users was unavailable, the authors noted.

      RTFA

      • @captainlezbian
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        71 month ago

        That tracks as we usually “don’t smoke” (idk if you still have to quit to get hormones but you used to)

      • katy ✨
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        that doesn’t answer my question why they’re using right wing terf phrasing

        its still lgbtq+ not lgb

        • @[email protected]
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          Because this data literally doesn’t include trans, Queer, two spirit, asexual, or any other sexuality besides the ones in the acronym. It is only that acronym because of the data, it’s a coincidence not an intention.

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          How would you have them refer to lesbian, gay and bisexual people, exclusive of trans people?

          • katy ✨
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            they could start by not excluding trans people. you refer to them just like i said; the lgbtq+ community

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              Sometimes they must necessarily be excluded. You just referred to trans people without referring to bi people. Were you “excluding” bi people? Well, in the sense of the word that you just (perhaps unintentionally) used, yes, you just excluded them. And it was okay. Because you weren’t talking about bi people. So it was okay to say “trans” instead of “2SLGBTQ+”. Because you were speaking specifically about trans people and that is OKAY. So what would you have me say when I am specifically talking about lesbian, gay, and bisexual people but not trans people??!!

              You’re so hung up on dogma and culture warring that you’re not using your brain.

                • Jerkface (any/all)
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                  You didn’t say “lgbtq+”. You wrote:

                  trans people

                  You said “trans”. Stop excluding bi people. Don’t say “trans” say “2slgbtq+”.

                  ^^^ that’s you

                  I have to think you are arguing in bad faith at this point.

                  • katy ✨
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                    01 month ago

                    this is literally my entire post

                    they could start by not excluding trans people. you refer to them just like i said; the lgbtq+ community

            • @Manifish_Destiny
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              Agreed, but it would be inaccurate here, seeing as trans people don’t vape as much.

            • Norah (pup/it/she)
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              my bestie in christ, scientifically excluding a population is not the same as treating a community with prejudice. trans people are excluded from the acronym in the title because there isn’t data on us. it would be misleading and inaccurate to include us in those statistics.

            • Superb
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              21 month ago

              But this article isn’t about the whole community, right?