• @PugJesusOP
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    2213 hours ago

    Referencing Marx is any fashion is tankie behavior?

    • @finitebanjo
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      Just consider it a warning for everyone here, is all. Praising Marx unprompted is definitely leaning into dangerous territory.

      • @PugJesusOP
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        2512 hours ago

        You may need to get out more. Marx is the father of modern sociology, a debt even Max Weber acknowledged. “Marx wasn’t all bad” isn’t a hot take outside of anywhere that doesn’t hang a tattered, non-code compliant American flag from the front porch.

        • @finitebanjo
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          It’s not that everyone who appreciates Marx is wrong, no no no, it’s just a nearly universal belief among all of the worst examples of human beings which are unfortunately swarming all over lemmy in an attempt to radicalize people.

          So avoid that shit whenever possible.

          • @[email protected]
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            32 hours ago

            What’s your point? This meme is tankie because tankies like Marx? Makes no sense. This meme even has the original political statement removed from it as the main joke and you’re talking about how it’s tankie?

          • @PugJesusOP
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            Surrendering Marx because shitheads use him as an aesthetic is like surrendering the American flag because shitheads use it as an aesthetic. All you do in doing so is lending power to your enemies for no good goddamn reason. Even less justified, really, since Marx has pretty clearly stated inclinations, while the US flag is far more abstract.

            Especially silly when half of the tankies on here haven’t read enough Marx to fill a thimble, and regularly and blatantly contradict him.

            • @finitebanjo
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              -912 hours ago

              If this were a sociology, philosophy, history, or similar academic community then sure…

              but not making Marxist memes is the easiest fucking thing you can possibly do. Are you planning to tell me I’m being unfair to chastise you because you accidentally tripped, opened your laptop, and photo-edited this meme so it’s not really your fault for picking the subject matter?

              • @PugJesusOP
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                1312 hours ago

                No. I’m telling you that surrendering symbols to the opposition just means that the opposition then benefits from that symbol. Fuck that. It’s both cowardly and stupid. I’m not going to puss out of reposting memes with Marx just because some ML fucks think workers’ democracy is for squares.

                • @finitebanjo
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                  “surrendering” fuck off

                  There are appropriate (and inappropriate) contexts for every subject.

                  • @PugJesusOP
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                    812 hours ago

                    “surrendering” fuck off

                    Don’t rightly know what else you’d call giving up a prominent and powerful symbol to the opposition without so much as a fight.

                    There are appropriate (and inappropriate) contexts for every subject.

                    Yep, and that’s why I feel fine posting a Marx meme in 196, where tankies aren’t welcome.