Summary

Rep. Annie Kuster, a 68-year-old Democrat from New Hampshire, retiring after 12 years in Congress, cites a desire to “set a better example” and create space for younger leaders.

Her decision comes amid growing public concern about aging politicians, with about a quarter of lawmakers over 70. Kuster’s successor will be Maggie Goodlander, 38.

Democrats are increasingly elevating younger leaders following setbacks in 2024, which some attribute to the perception of aging leadership, including President Biden’s controversial reelection bid.

Calls for age limits remain popular but face significant legislative hurdles.

  • @givesomefucks
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    5 days ago

    So?

    It’s a lot harder for their voters to excuse it when only one party does it. Which hurts them in elections.

    And that’s not even getting into how those geriatric politicians are a disadvantage. They have to be physically present to vote. And the majority leader could actually try to do something every day.

    Eventually enough would be missing that things could be accomplished.

    There’s literally nothing stopping us from trying except the lack of effort from our politicians, so let’s get better ones and let the Republicans keep their ineffectual ones.

    What’s the problem?

    • @dephyre
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      She’s set to be replaced by Maggie Goodlander, a 38-year-old Democrat who most recently worked in the Department of Justice under President Joe Biden.

      I don’t really see any issue here.

      • @givesomefucks
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        It’s better than it sounds, she announced it like 9 months ago so there was a primary for the seat.

        The article is paywalled but it makes it sound like she ran in 2024 and now someone is just getting the seat, which would have been bullshit.

        There’s not really any issues at all here, and I can usually always find something to complain about.

    • @grue
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      The problem is that committee assignments are based on seniority, so if only one party has its long-serving Congresspeople step down, it cedes power to the other.

      In other words, similar to how first-past-the-post elections lead to the two-party system, seniority rules leading to gerontocracy is a structural issue, not merely bad/incorrect/self-serving behavior on the part of individual politicians.

      Edit: I’m not wrong, at least not completely. My argument just applies to the Senate, rather than all of Congress.

      • @givesomefucks
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        The problem is that committee assignments are based on seniority, so if only one party has its long-serving Congresspeople step down, it cedes power to the other.

        Did you not hear about AOC losing the vote to head the oversight committee?

        And that’s not getting into when seniority is important, it’s within the same party…

        Quick edit:

        Weird I just noticed both comments were yours.

        You can only reply to me once and just wait a couple minutes for a reply, there’s no need to start the same conversation multiple times. It’s rather annoying to most people in fact

        • @grue
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          15 days ago

          You can only reply to me once and just wait a couple minutes for a reply, there’s no need to start the same conversation multiple times. It’s rather annoying to most people in fact

          Replies aren’t only for your benefit; other people read them too. I wrote the second reply because it was in a different branch of the thread and it’s possible people reading that branch wouldn’t see the first one.

          • @givesomefucks
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            15 days ago

            If you thought you were helping, you could have googled it first instead of guessing, but feel free to reply as often as you want.

            • @grue
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              15 days ago

              Fine, I googled it: seniority determining committee leadership is a Senate thing, but not a House thing.

      • @CharlesDarwin
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        05 days ago

        It also might be that people in other professions would work longer if the structural issue of ageism was not so predominant there…about the only profession in the private sector where I see people doing it long past the average is doctors, but maybe that’s because they still have some labor protections as a profession, I don’t know…

        • @givesomefucks
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          The words smartest living physicist is like 94…

          But he’s been “retired” for 30 years and his post work hobby has been figuring out what consciousness is.

          Still insanely active and sharp as a tack. But it says a lot that he decided to retire from academia as soon as he was able.

          about the only profession in the private sector where I see people doing it long past the average is doctors,

          From what I remember is their pay was largely predicted on experience. With a “more is always better” approach because until recently living past 70 was a big exception. Thy also have the bonus of usually having very good healthcare, and knowing when to get checked out.

          So there were multiple reasons doctors were one of the first professions people stuck in for a very long time. Another example would be lawyers, but for different reasons

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            My hope is that people that want to do what they find meaningful work are able to do it longer, if they so wish. Rather than working to lower all boats, such as those in public service, who currently work longer. I submit it’s because they actually can.

            I probably sound like a broken record here, but if people try to set some kind of rule or norm on when people “should” exit the workplace, and along comes tech to slow down aging or even reverse it we are going to have to very quickly adapt to that.

            I get that people get exasperated with people like Pelosi holding back all kinds of progress, while making all kinds of money by insider trading. However, I’m not sure it’s just an age thing - that seems like red herring. It should be about competency and removing corruption, but people talk about “term limits” and “gerontocracy” instead. If Bernie were all of a sudden able to live to 150 - I wouldn’t want some stupid notion of a “norm” or, worse, some backward age-related rule to keep him from continuing to do the job if he so wished.

            In the short term, if people want to start applying some kind of independently-verified cognitive test and candidates for office start taking it, I’d be all for that.

            [1] Not that I think anything like that will happen that quickly, but talking about AI was mostly a “fringe” discussion mostly, too. Until it wasn’t. And most of the population, given the reaction to things like GPTLLMs are not AGI, and maybe never will be. But they are and will be incredibly disruptive. I think any breakthroughs related to age might be similar - it’s considered very “fringe”, until it’s not.