I heard a bunch of explanations but most of them seem emotional and aggressive, and while I respect that this is an emotional subject, I can’t really understand opinions that boil down to “theft” and are aggressive about it.

while there are plenty of models that were trained on copyrighted material without consent (which is piracy, not theft but close enough when talking about small businesses or individuals) is there an argument against models that were legally trained? And if so, is it something past the saying that AI art is lifeless?

  • @Valmond
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    Artists are not becoming obsolete, that is just wrong.

    I haven’t seen an AI make an convincing oil painting yet :-)

    I think what most people think of as “artists” is actually the job they sometimes do, like layout and graphic design etc. That isn’t going obsolete either, it’s just new tools to help, and maybe the demand will be lowerbecause of it.

    • Lucy :3
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      Physical artists won’t, especially those doing plastic art. Most modern art is now digital though, contracted for various things, professionally and privately.

      And for oil paintings, AI creators are going to find a way. This is capitalism after all.

      And with new tools for design, either you’ll be just replaced entirely or you’ll get paid a lot less because “you just ask ChatGPT” or “I could do that with tool X for free”.

      • @[email protected]
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        Physical artists won’t, especially those doing plastic art.

        Why would they be safe with 3D printers being a thing?

        • Lucy :3
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          That’s kind of its own category of art: designing 3D-Printed stuff.

          I mean stuff like cutting wood or doing something out of bricks etc.

          • @[email protected]
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            What difference does the medium make? The people who think AI pictures are good enough or even better than art made by humans will be perfectly fine with generating 3D models and printing them if they want any kind of sculpture.

        • @Valmond
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          I think he meant painting and the like when saying “plastic arts”, not doing art with plastic.

          Or so I guess.

          • @[email protected]
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            Plastic arts is sculptures, three dimensional things like statues. Nothing to do with plastic, the material. It just so happens that 3D printing is a type of plastic art that uses types of plastic as its medium.

            • @Valmond
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              Not only 3D things, it englobes paintings too, some add photo & film even.

              • @[email protected]
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                If that’s the case, it’s a language barrier thing. The equivalent to “plastic art” in my native language excludes paintings.

                • @Valmond
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                  Fair enough!

                  English and french seems to include it.

                  What’s the language? Maybe it’s more literal and fr/en has some historical etymology…

                  • @[email protected]
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                    In German, it’s “plastische Kunst”. The adjective “plastisch” basically means “three dimensional”, as in “not flat”.

                    Plastische Chirurgie is plastic surgery - it’s not primarily putting “plastic” into bodies ;) but sculpting a three dimensional form.

    • PonyOfWar
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      I haven’t seen an AI make an convincing oil painting yet :-)

      Maybe not for you, but search for oil painting prints on amazon and you’ll find tons of AI generated stuff. The average Joe already can’t tell the difference.

      • @Valmond
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        An oil painting print is lika a video of fireworks.

        • @WoodScientist
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          What if I use tens of thousands of light-up drones flying in the sky to create a virtual display, and then I use that display to create a 3D image of a fireworks show?

          • @Valmond
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            Believe it or not, straight to jail!