Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from [email protected] for being fake vegans.
From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.
PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don’t want to insult anyone here being a ‘bastard’. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.
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Even though I don’t share her point of view, that part of your comment is totally inappropriate and rude.
How is it rude?
It’s funny though
Look, sometimes we make jokes at the expense of others. Don’t say you don’t because we all have and do, all the time. Stop shaming someone just because they made a joke. Have a sense of humor, understand that sometimes it’s funny to laught about going to hell. A jest here and there is perfectly fine. Also, it’s not like this person was Gandhi, they deserve some jest
Making a joke about someone you don’t regularly interact with even on a forum seems to be laughing about them rather than with them.
And sometimes a joke is just a joke. Learn to take one.
Once we get to the point where we are perfectly sensitive to every little irk that any person might have, we will be at the point where nobody interacts with anybody because we won’t be able to as anything and everything can be insulting.
I have people joke about me all the time, it’s fine. I’m not following this person around to yell it in their face, it’s a comment in passing. It doesn’t hurt anyone unless you decided to stop and make a big deal out of it.
Don’t make a big deal out of it, it was a little joke, everyone is fine. I’ve been relentlessly bullied for my entire youth, and I learned the hard way that some of the bullying you call out on your own with your behavior. If you cry over every little innocent joke, people will pile on. My bullying stopped when I decided it would stop. I changed, the bullying stopped.
Have you seen their attitude? They definitely deserve to be laughed at
They can be power tripping but still not be mocked
Eh, imo the best way deal with bullies is to laugh at them, so I’ll beg to differ on this point.
Not sure if keeping a “strict vegan” space should be considered bullying. There was also no such jokes on the carnivore thread, doing similar mod actions
I think it’s a difference if you joke about someone close to you or some stranger. Also joking about ‘vegans’ as a whole group is fine for me. But if you’re aiming at specific people with that kind of jokes, it feels more like bullying to me.
I guess even if you didn’t know her before, we learnt in this thread that being vegan seems to be a (the?) part of her identity and that she’s pretty sensitive about it. To me that feels a bit (!) like laughing about trans person for looking unauthentic or having the wrong genitals.
Gotta jump right to the one that’ll seem most extreme, eh?
Veganism is a choice, being trans isn’t, that’s the difference
I’m sure there are better analogies than the one I made up. It was just one that I felt remotely comparable. That’s why I said ‘a bit!’. I’m open to replace it with a better one if you can make one up.
I think that depends a bit on the person. In my case it was a mostly rational choice. If your decision is more emotionally motivated and becomes a very central part of your identity, it may rather feel like religion or fundamental morals. I can’t speak for Sunshine but apparantly in her mind, there’s little room for discussion or interpretation.