• @jordanlundM
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    1 month ago

    The biggest reason is that voter turnout wasn’t repressed, the 2020 turnout was artificially inflated by emergency vote by mail rules due to the pandemic.

    2012 - Obama 65,915,795 Romney 60,933,504
    Total - 126,849,299

    2016 - Trump 62,984,828 Clinton 65,853,514
    Total - 128,838,342

    2020 - Biden 81,283,501 Trump 74,223,975
    Total - 155,507,476

    2024 - Trump 77,303,573 Harris 75,019,257
    Total - 152,322,830

    • Baron Von J
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      91 month ago

      I would say those numbers mean every election where voters are not able to vote by mail is an election with repressed voter turnout. Because now we know what turnout can be if vote by mail is an option.

      • @jordanlundM
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        41 month ago

        Oh, definitely, the participation in vote by mail states is roughly double states where voting in person is the only option.

      • @CharlesDarwin
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        31 month ago

        This is the answer. Colorado has long had vote by mail. This should be available in every state, and it’s criminal that it is not.

    • @[email protected]
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      71 month ago

      Did you look at your own numbers? Trump did better than he did in 2020, while Harris did substantially worse than Biden.

      • @jordanlundM
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        11 month ago

        Substantially worse, but not 19 million worse.

        Trump was +3 million, Harris was -6.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          There’s a key distinction between the number of Biden voters who voted for Harris and the relative vote totals. Some of Harris’s voters didn’t (or couldn’t) vote for Biden. First time voters or Trump-Harris voters wouldn’t be Biden voters, so the number of her Biden voters would be lower than her total number of votes.

    • @teodor_from_achewood
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      11 month ago

      Millions of people have voted by mail for decades, that doesn’t explain why more people voted for Biden in 2020 than anyone in 2024.

      • @jordanlundM
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        -11 month ago

        Millions more had the option available to them with no restriction due to Covid.

    • @LovingHippieCat
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      11 month ago

      No, I know that, but that still doesn’t provide evidence for what the article states, that 19 million people who voted for Biden stayed home. That’s my problem because there is no evidence for that figure.

      • @jordanlundM
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        11 month ago

        I agree! At most this shows 6 million stayed home, not 19. You could increase it to 9 million if you assume the Trump +3 million was a flip instead of staying home.