I’m pretty sure most people who are doing this are trying, in their own way, to make a point.
It wasn’t about “national security”. It was about a large digital meeting place where ideas could be shared, or feelings and frustrations at their government could be seen and felt by others who felt the same. Big Brother doesn’t like that, unless it is on US Corporate Approved Social Media, where they can promptly shut you down, or get their algorithm to put post with specific keywords out of the eyes of as many as possible.
So, instead of creating actual data privacy laws, as they should have, they decided to attack TikTok, because Mark Zuckerburg got in front of congress during whatever case it was that brought his lizard ass in the room (maybe the Cambridge Analytica scandal?) and said that TikTok was more dangerous than his own platform.
There you go. It was never about “national security”, as there were much better ways to handle that than banning one single app.
The data is stored on US soil, so whatever they are able to gather, the US government is allowing it. Which means… all social media. So, ban all social media then if it’s such a risk, right? Or… I don’t know… maybe make an actual data privacy law so no one can steal and hoover up your precious data?
Look m8 IDC how authoritarian they are, if China wants to see how much brain rot I can get through in an 8 hour period that’s fine, it’s not like they’re an authority over me
In the US, especially for some marginalized groups (trans folks mostly right now) there’s an active push by the govt to make people hate us, I don’t want THAT authority to have any of my fucking data, especially when analysis of my scrolling habits could tell them when I’m most likely home or whatnot.
Given the choice between an authoritarian and an authoritarian, I’ll take the authoritarian who can’t exert power over me thanks
Except they’re not just both authoritarian; they’re both capitalist. So TikTok (or whatever) will just sell your data to brokers and it’ll eventually end up in the hands of Americans who would visit your home.
Are you somehow not aware that Google/Facebook/Twitter literally do the same thing? Wouldn’t it make more sense to create a data privacy law so that everyone benefits? I don’t understand why that’s so hard to grasp for some of these folks.
Yeah absolutely.
Grassroots organising is good but so is being angsty on the internet.
Like how a few people were talking about voting as a tool for harm prevention on an individual rather than systemic level before the election.
Whatever works to make you feel less powerless is a good thing
Right? If logging keystrokes is “wrong”, then ban that! I’ve never downloaded TikTok in my life but this entire thing is so transparently manufactured.
I could not care less if China has every single thing I’ve ever typed. They’re literally half a world away, and have never tried to launch a war on vague concepts.
The US government nor any corporate owner of the US government should have a single idea of my existence except for tax purposes.
They may not have called it that but look into the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution. Both governments are bad. But the fact Chinese and us citizens are interacting face to face is a major positive.
I don’t understand why the people here who like TikTok aren’t on a Reddit instead. They don’t mind closed-source software on a corporate server manipulating us. There’s people who want just TikTok gone, and people who want all centralized social media gone.
I’m… pretty sure people can like both open source and closed source things… “manipulating” yes. I’ve been so manipulated. I’ve been so manipulated that I think there should be actual data privacy laws. They got me.
IT professionals clutching their pearls is just this year’s “won’t somebody think of the bank windows!” Our data is fucked already. Security and privacy had been made worthless now and only seems to have a compensative value to tech companies. So why not cast it to the wind and watch them scramble after it?
Multiple data leaks have came about because of Facebook yet you don’t see anyone here saying anything about being happy to ban it. It’s so weird to see the disconnect. The true answer is for ALL of us to have actual data privacy laws enacted by our dinosaurs in government.
I’m pretty sure most people who are doing this are trying, in their own way, to make a point.
It wasn’t about “national security”. It was about a large digital meeting place where ideas could be shared, or feelings and frustrations at their government could be seen and felt by others who felt the same. Big Brother doesn’t like that, unless it is on US Corporate Approved Social Media, where they can promptly shut you down, or get their algorithm to put post with specific keywords out of the eyes of as many as possible.
So, instead of creating actual data privacy laws, as they should have, they decided to attack TikTok, because Mark Zuckerburg got in front of congress during whatever case it was that brought his lizard ass in the room (maybe the Cambridge Analytica scandal?) and said that TikTok was more dangerous than his own platform.
There you go. It was never about “national security”, as there were much better ways to handle that than banning one single app.
Doing the the thing in direct opposition to what an authority is demanding is like a trauma response or something.
it’s also a good idea when the authority is being a piece of shit and grew too comfortable in their position.
moving your data from your domestic authoritarian to a foreign authoritarian isn’t the gotcha you think it is
It is if you want to stick it to the domestic authoritarian
The data is stored on US soil, so whatever they are able to gather, the US government is allowing it. Which means… all social media. So, ban all social media then if it’s such a risk, right? Or… I don’t know… maybe make an actual data privacy law so no one can steal and hoover up your precious data?
Look m8 IDC how authoritarian they are, if China wants to see how much brain rot I can get through in an 8 hour period that’s fine, it’s not like they’re an authority over me
In the US, especially for some marginalized groups (trans folks mostly right now) there’s an active push by the govt to make people hate us, I don’t want THAT authority to have any of my fucking data, especially when analysis of my scrolling habits could tell them when I’m most likely home or whatnot.
Given the choice between an authoritarian and an authoritarian, I’ll take the authoritarian who can’t exert power over me thanks
Except they’re not just both authoritarian; they’re both capitalist. So TikTok (or whatever) will just sell your data to brokers and it’ll eventually end up in the hands of Americans who would visit your home.
Are you somehow not aware that Google/Facebook/Twitter literally do the same thing? Wouldn’t it make more sense to create a data privacy law so that everyone benefits? I don’t understand why that’s so hard to grasp for some of these folks.
It would make more sense to use alternatives to those social networks. Yes, it is still bad when Americans do it.
You and I have practically zero control over privacy laws. We’re living in an oligarchy, not a democracy.
Yeah absolutely. Grassroots organising is good but so is being angsty on the internet. Like how a few people were talking about voting as a tool for harm prevention on an individual rather than systemic level before the election. Whatever works to make you feel less powerless is a good thing
China was caught logging every keystroke through this. It’s why some revamped it’s permissions a while ago.
In China it shows people how to be good, science, technology., education, nature.
Here it show kids to eat tide pods.
It’s a propaganda method for China.
Yes, surely no other apps log keystrokes. Certainly not Gboard!
It’s irrelevant whether other apps do it – it’s still wrong.
See, to me, it’s not irrelevant. Either make a blanket data privacy law, or shut the fuck up.
Right? If logging keystrokes is “wrong”, then ban that! I’ve never downloaded TikTok in my life but this entire thing is so transparently manufactured.
Of course not, Google does no evil. Everyone knows that.
I could not care less if China has every single thing I’ve ever typed. They’re literally half a world away, and have never tried to launch a war on vague concepts.
The US government nor any corporate owner of the US government should have a single idea of my existence except for tax purposes.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Are you serious?
China didn’t have a war on terror or war on crime.
They may not have called it that but look into the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution. Both governments are bad. But the fact Chinese and us citizens are interacting face to face is a major positive.
…neither of those things were wars, and both of those campaigns were successful by any possible measure.
The war on drugs is not a war, the war on terror is not a war. And both of those “campaigns” involved repression of concepts.
You sure they’re not wars? The several million dead injured, and enslaved non whites targeted in said wars probably disagree.
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Yeah. Lemmy users should spend a bit of time deconstructing why tik tok makes them so angry. There’s a bit to unpack there. Not that it isn’t trash.
I don’t understand why the people here who like TikTok aren’t on a Reddit instead. They don’t mind closed-source software on a corporate server manipulating us. There’s people who want just TikTok gone, and people who want all centralized social media gone.
I’m… pretty sure people can like both open source and closed source things… “manipulating” yes. I’ve been so manipulated. I’ve been so manipulated that I think there should be actual data privacy laws. They got me.
Cool, I’d like a pony too.
It reminds them of the popular kids in school who pushed them into lockers. That’s basically it.
The shit liberals just go along with because it fits their propaganda is genuinely fucking hilarious.
It’s not that deep. AIPAC fucking hated how the truth about Israel’s genocide was spreading, and told their puppets to ban it.
The DNC chose to lose 3 branches of government rather than disobey Israel.
Mark Suckerburg tells congress TikTok is a threat
IT professionals clutching their pearls is just this year’s “won’t somebody think of the bank windows!” Our data is fucked already. Security and privacy had been made worthless now and only seems to have a compensative value to tech companies. So why not cast it to the wind and watch them scramble after it?
Post your home address
Multiple data leaks have came about because of Facebook yet you don’t see anyone here saying anything about being happy to ban it. It’s so weird to see the disconnect. The true answer is for ALL of us to have actual data privacy laws enacted by our dinosaurs in government.