• XIIIesq
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    Well if this person truly believes it wasn’t a Nazi salute, then he’s not lying.

    I believe ghosts aren’t real, but that doesn’t mean I think anyone that has seen a ghost is lying, I truly believe that they think they saw a ghost.

    There’s a huge difference between an objective truth and a widely agreed upon opinion.

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      It’s weird that this issue only comes up when it comes to defend nazi shit and not with other things. I’ll give you a specific example: I posted this on r/ShowerThoughts: “Incest is like pissing in your gene pool”. I think it’s pretty good, but mods deleted my post because it goes against community guidelines. If I got into an argument with the mods and got banned from r/ShowerThoughts, I wouldn’t be going around crying about “freedom of speech”, because it’s dumb, and communities have rules.

      These arguments are always about normalizing nazi shit. Fuck that.

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        The difference here is that you made a post against community guidelines. Where as in this case the guy seems to have been banned for wrong think.

        I’m not arguing that communities can’t have their own rules.

        • @Goodmorningsunshine
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          Possibly defending Nazis was against community guidelines…? Pretty doublespeak of you to call one example “against guidelines” and the other “wrong think” and I’m sure I know why you do it.

          • XIIIesq
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            We’re back to opinion Vs fact, again!

            At the end of the day, until Musk comes out and says, “it was a Nazi salute and I’m a Nazi”, it will be up to opinion and everyone has a right to share their opinion.

            and I’m sure I know why you do it.

            I really don’t appreciate the insinuation but the least you could do is grow a pair, come out and say it.

            • @Goodmorningsunshine
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              You’re a very good little reminder that no one should take the ability to regurgitate alt-righticisms for intellect.

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                If endorsing the freedom of speech makes you alt-right, then I guess I’m alt-right.

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      Well if this person truly believes it wasn’t a Nazi salute, then he’s not lying

      Agreed, that makes him deluded instead. Not many people however are stupid enough to be able to analyse Musk salute and belive it wasn’t a nazi one.

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        I’m not getting in to the Musk debate, I’m quite frankly bored of it, just let me know if he does it again.

        I’m only here to defend freedom of speech.

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          I’m just here to defend freedom of speech.

          Ensure you understand it first:

          ‘Freedom of speech is the right to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, by any means.’

          https://www.amnesty.org.uk/free-speech-freedom-expression-human-right

          Thus my point that freedom of speech is not a freedom to lie or a freedom to spread hate or encourage violence (this is a general point, I am not referring to your views in particular).

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            Honestly, that’s very insulting and I don’t appreciate the insinuation. I know very well what the freedom of speech entails and I donate monthly to amnesty international.

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              Honestly, that’s very insulting and I don’t appreciate the insinuation.

              All I would say is that you picked up a very odd example to defend the “freedom of speech”.

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                That’s just the thing, freedom of speech is for everyone, not only the people you like and agree with, this conversation has come full circle now.

                • @FelixCress
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                  freedom of speech is for everyone, not only the people you like

                  Where is this one coming from now?

                  • XIIIesq
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                    I think the prior comments provide adequate context. I’ve said everything I have to say on the issue and I’m bored now. Have a nice day.