There are many possible points of disagreement within Christianity because, like it or not, the Bible is unclear and even contradicts itself on many subjects (and this is a Christian saying this). But prosperity theology is so clearly the opposite of everything in the Bible that any self-respecting evangelical should ostracize it. That they don’t is the proof that the gospel is not what many evangelicals are interested in.
Though she clarified that donations wouldn’t actually go to help those infected, White used medical imagery to add urgency to her fundraising plea during a pandemic. “Every single day we are a hospital to the sick, not necessarily the physically sick,” she said. “But we are a hospital for those who are soul sick, those who are spiritually sick.” White went on to suggest that contributors offer a $91 donation, citing Psalm 91, or “maybe $9 or whatever God tells you to do.”
What I cite the bible for
Matthew 21:12-13 Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. “It is written,” he said to them, “‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’ but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.’
You might enjoy reading some of the works of Bart Ehrman. I’m an atheist who has been reading a lot about Jesus and the early church (first three centuries). I would recommend, How Jesus Became God.
Anyway, good for you for recognizing prosperity bs for what it is.
Ehrman is great, as are his books and his podcast (which is called “Misquoting Jesus”). He’s one of the most objective mainstream New Testament scholars (in the field of textual criticism), and he doesn’t try to advance any agenda. He states clearly whether his points are the consensus of non-evangelical scholars, or whether he’s in the minority (which is rarely); whether other scholars disagree with him (and why); what the evangelical scholars say, etc. He doesn’t encourage either atheism or religion; he’s simply a textual criticism scholar.
It’s literally a sin in many sects, not to say those sects aren’t entirely hypocritical on the matter, but trading priestly duties for money is explicitly a sin in a lot of Abrahamic religions.
I like Ehrman. I think Jesus had, before the Resurrection, no clear idea of who/what he was and that what Ehrman shows is how the early church not invented but discovered the divinity of Jesus.
To reinforce this, Jesus didn’t just say it was hard for a rich person to get into heaven, he said “And again I say unto you, it is easier for a camel to go through a needle’s eye, than for a rich [person] to enter into the kingdom of God.” --Matthew 19:23-26
Personally, I think this is specifically referring to the level of greed that it requires to hoard enough wealth to become (and stay) a billionaire while the world suffers. It’s important to understand that this is our Bible, the foundation of everything Christianity is supposed to be about. These freaks have twisted it so much, it’s unrecognizable…
That’s how far we’ve come. I know many here are vehemently opposed to any faith-based belief system, and that’s 100% your right. But churches and religious leadership promoting Trump and hate are shitting on everything God said in the one book he gave us. Modern Christians should read the Bible and find a church that follows it. If possible. Not the other way around…
I try to tell Christians to just read the words of Jesus if they don’t have time to read their whole book. Some bibles have them helpfully marked with red ink.
fun fact, the “eye of the needle” isn’t referring to a needle. they’re small gaps in the big stone walls just big enough for a person to squeeze through but intentionally designed so that a camel cannot get in. he’s not even saying it’s metaphorically impossible he’s saying it’s literally impossible, and by design.
how is that a cope? doesn’t it make the comment more scathing? and idfk entirely possible someone made that up, just Google it, I got pictures and shit when I checked briefly before posting
Calvin was totally opposed to this kind of theology. I presume you’re referencing to Weber; but if you read The Protestant Ethic closely, he didn’t speak about mainstream Calvinism of his time, but German puritanism, which was opposed by mainstream Calvinism.
There are many possible points of disagreement within Christianity because, like it or not, the Bible is unclear and even contradicts itself on many subjects (and this is a Christian saying this). But prosperity theology is so clearly the opposite of everything in the Bible that any self-respecting evangelical should ostracize it. That they don’t is the proof that the gospel is not what many evangelicals are interested in.
What she cites the bible for
What I cite the bible for
don’t forget he made a whip and used it during this event
He saw what was going on, went back outside and made a whip, then brought it back in and went after all four cheeks.
Remember, when someone asks “What would Jesus do?”
Going after all 4 cheeks is a valid response.
What would Jesus do?
I’m a Satanist, but I fuck with based Jesus.
You might enjoy reading some of the works of Bart Ehrman. I’m an atheist who has been reading a lot about Jesus and the early church (first three centuries). I would recommend, How Jesus Became God.
Anyway, good for you for recognizing prosperity bs for what it is.
Ehrman is great, as are his books and his podcast (which is called “Misquoting Jesus”). He’s one of the most objective mainstream New Testament scholars (in the field of textual criticism), and he doesn’t try to advance any agenda. He states clearly whether his points are the consensus of non-evangelical scholars, or whether he’s in the minority (which is rarely); whether other scholars disagree with him (and why); what the evangelical scholars say, etc. He doesn’t encourage either atheism or religion; he’s simply a textual criticism scholar.
It’s literally a sin in many sects, not to say those sects aren’t entirely hypocritical on the matter, but trading priestly duties for money is explicitly a sin in a lot of Abrahamic religions.
Gestures broadly at the pastors with their AMG Mercedes/M BMWs, mansions, private planes, helicopters, beach/mountain vacation houses, etc…"
I like Ehrman. I think Jesus had, before the Resurrection, no clear idea of who/what he was and that what Ehrman shows is how the early church not invented but discovered the divinity of Jesus.
I’m convinced that he believed he was the Messiah. I don’t think he considered himself divine. I think that was invented later.
He says he’s the son of god long before he’s killed if I’m not mistaken.
Yes, but:
Supply-side Jesus would like a word with you…
Pretty sure OP already gets it.
To reinforce this, Jesus didn’t just say it was hard for a rich person to get into heaven, he said “And again I say unto you, it is easier for a camel to go through a needle’s eye, than for a rich [person] to enter into the kingdom of God.” --Matthew 19:23-26
Personally, I think this is specifically referring to the level of greed that it requires to hoard enough wealth to become (and stay) a billionaire while the world suffers. It’s important to understand that this is our Bible, the foundation of everything Christianity is supposed to be about. These freaks have twisted it so much, it’s unrecognizable…
No issues with you comment, but I find it disheartening that leadership in churches around the country do not condemn what is happening
That’s how far we’ve come. I know many here are vehemently opposed to any faith-based belief system, and that’s 100% your right. But churches and religious leadership promoting Trump and hate are shitting on everything God said in the one book he gave us. Modern Christians should read the Bible and find a church that follows it. If possible. Not the other way around…
I try to tell Christians to just read the words of Jesus if they don’t have time to read their whole book. Some bibles have them helpfully marked with red ink.
It goes on though:
So what I’m getting is “everyone goes to heaven, but don’t say that too loud or people will be dicks to each other”.
fun fact, the “eye of the needle” isn’t referring to a needle. they’re small gaps in the big stone walls just big enough for a person to squeeze through but intentionally designed so that a camel cannot get in. he’s not even saying it’s metaphorically impossible he’s saying it’s literally impossible, and by design.
This is a cope made up by wealthy Christians from what I understand. Source?
how is that a cope? doesn’t it make the comment more scathing? and idfk entirely possible someone made that up, just Google it, I got pictures and shit when I checked briefly before posting
I know most would go back in time and kill Hitler but I’d slap the ever living shit out of John Calvin.
Calvin was totally opposed to this kind of theology. I presume you’re referencing to Weber; but if you read The Protestant Ethic closely, he didn’t speak about mainstream Calvinism of his time, but German puritanism, which was opposed by mainstream Calvinism.