• NegativeNullOPM
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    3021 days ago

    Troi: see’s visibly angry person/alien
    Troi: “I sense anger is this person”

    • @aeronmelon
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      1621 days ago

      Rewatching TNG as an adult, Troi’s empathic skills are actually useful. We, the viewer, may already be aware, but she clues Picard and the rest of the crew in on things they need to know at that moment.

      As for her abilities as a therapist, I think Starfleet failed to train her for “frontier/first contact” situations properly. On most any other ship in the fleet, she would be fine. On the Enterprise she had to wing her way through events and problems that have never been experienced before by any member of Starfleet.

      And for the record, she did help Barclay get better at interacting with other people. I appreciate that we get to see more of them in Voyager.

      • Flying SquidM
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        1820 days ago

        She helped get Barclay better because the writers decided she did, not through any therapeutic techniques that would have actually worked.

        • @aeronmelon
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          520 days ago

          Yeah, because she was written by science fiction writers. The enterprise saved the day because the writers decided it did.

          Things got more realistic during their scenes in Voyager, thankfully.

          • Flying SquidM
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            420 days ago

            Right, but what I am saying is they could have easily just talked to some actual social workers to find out what would have actually worked with someone like Barclay instead of just deciding it. It’s kind of a shitty way to treat mental illness as a subject.

            • @aeronmelon
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              220 days ago

              Just like they could have easily talked to a real fucking Native American.

              But I don’t think this one was an unforced error. That was all most well-intended Americans (yeah, I really do have to qualify it that way) knew at the time. It was progressive then, but insulting today.

              Otherwise, you can chalk it up as yet another Berman Conflict™.

              • Flying SquidM
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                320 days ago

                In that case, they were fooled by a con man.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamake_Highwater

                So I don’t think that’s applicable here. They thought they had consulted someone properly in that case but they were wrong through no fault of their own. With Troi, all they had to do is find one of the millions of social workers in the U.S. or just the thousands in Los Angeles and talked to them.

      • NegativeNullOPM
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        1021 days ago

        I tease in this meme, but yes, I agree with you.

        • @aeronmelon
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          1021 days ago

          I know. That’s why I love this community. We argue over meaningless lore details while upvoting each other.

    • @Thebeardedsinglemalt
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      1020 days ago

      Troi: I sense great deception with this man.

      Picard: He’s a goddamn Ferengi!

      • @ummthatguy
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        1120 days ago

        Betazoids can’t read Ferengi minds/feelings. Sorry, had to get it out of my system. Your point still stands for her stating the obvious.

        • NegativeNullOPM
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          720 days ago

          As long as she memorizes the Rules of Acquisition, she COULD read their minds