• @Skyrmir
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    -155 days ago

    Simple, without nukes we’ll have war, real war, real dead Americans. Most of the reason the doomsday clock is so close right now, is because of Trump. His flippant bullshit about Gaza enraged the Arab world, stepping them closer to nuclear war. His attempts at peace in Ukraine, without involving the Ukrainians, is more likely to cause Ukraine to escalate. His defense secretary just told the Russian’s they could defeat the US Navy. Definitely bullshit, but also makes Russia think they can start more shit, probably starting a wider war with NATO.

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      Simple, without nukes we’ll have war, real war, real dead Americans.

      As opposed to dead everyone? Maybe consider that infinite war isn’t the default state of a normal country.

      Most of the reason the doomsday clock is so close right now, is because of Trump.

      Lmao not even fucking close. It was Obama who prepared this particular powder keg, it was Biden who set it off, it was Biden playing chicken with the nukes, and it was also Biden commissioning reports desperately looking for a scenario where he could let the fucking bombs fly.

      I know libs like to pretend they live in a James Bond movie but Russia isn’t interested in a protracted conflict with Europe, it’s been trying to integrate their economy with them for over 30 years and the US keeps sticking its dick in the punch bowl.

      • @Skyrmir
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        -55 days ago

        If we draw down, between the number of nukes we have now, and 0, there will be a global war. The actual number of nukes won’t matter, humanity will be at risk of extinction.

        The only ones at fault for where we are now are the GoP and Trump. They’ve destabilized the Middle East by supporting Israels settlements, taken every dime from Putin to do his bidding for decades, tore up Pacific treaties to stop Xi, while doing every thing they can to get Iran to give them a pretense to invade.

        • davel [he/him]
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          65 days ago

          Do you draw your theories from any actual school of geopolitics/international relations, or are you just winging it?

          Because it seems like you’re your flying solo in your own paranoid mind palace, completely divorced from material reality.

          • @Skyrmir
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            -35 days ago

            How about all of human history. It’s never worked out well for the larger hegemony to reduce itself to the benefit of adversaries.

      • @Skyrmir
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        -95 days ago

        Really? How well did throwing away nukes go for Ukraine?

          • @Skyrmir
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            -175 days ago

            And every step closer, is a step closer to death. Nuclear weapons are a tigers tail. When we let go, we all die.

              • @Skyrmir
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                -125 days ago

                Japan survived two nukes and became one of the largest financial forces in the world. So how many could Russia survive? 10? 50? Maybe Putin like those odds. Maybe Iran decides it’s worth it to clear out Israel. If there’s only a few nukes involved, the crazy fucks start thinking they can win a nuclear war, or at least survive it well enough to be worth it.

        • @[email protected]
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          105 days ago

          Having less nukes is not the same as disarmament it’s not even comparable. They dropped two nukes and did that much destruction in Japan, 2, and those were 1940s nukes, even with this change the US would still have thousands of nukes.

          https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-many-nuclear-weapons-exist-and-who-has-them/

          the United States admits to having 5,550

          Ukraine went to 0 nukes, the US has 5000+ nukes, how would that even be comparable if the US let’s say went down to 1000 nukes. That’s still 1000 nukes more than 0.

          • @Skyrmir
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            -125 days ago

            Every step closer to disarmament bring us closer to nuclear war. Every nuke disarmed makes us one step closer to Putin or Xi thinking they can win a nuclear war.

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              By that logic, we must build 100x more nukes than we currently have, and if anyone suggests that 10x more is enough, they’re a Russian puppet.

              Or would you care to explain why the current number of nukes is the perfect amount, as opposed to, say, 1000 less? Did you even know how many nukes the US has when you wrote your comment?

              • @Skyrmir
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                05 days ago

                The actual number is irrelevant, the change in number does Khamenei doesn’t know how many nukes Israel or the US actual have. He’ll make decisions based on what he does know. And a draw down tells him he can get away with more attacks.

      • @DontTreadOnBigfoot
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        Nuclear weapons didn’t prevent Ukraine

        They sure at shit would have.

        Putin only invaded because Ukraine voluntarily disarmed after promises of protection from the US.

        • queermunist she/her
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          45 days ago

          And the threat of all those Western nuclear powers in Ukraine didn’t make Putin blink. Instead we just got closer to nuclear war than any time in recent memory.

      • TheTechnician27
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        15 days ago

        Nuclear weapons didn’t prevent Ukraine.

        If you know even a single thing about Ukraine’s history as an independent country, you know this comment is completely braindead and oozing with irony.

        • queermunist she/her
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          -55 days ago

          Russia was willing to risk nuclear war by fighting nuclear powers in Ukraine. If Ukraine had nukes maybe we’d just have the apocalypse.