• @doodledup
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    For the Americans that don’t know the word Nazism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism?wprov=sfla1

    Although he has right-wing ideologies, there is no evidence of Elon Musk being a Nazi. A car can’t be a Nazi either…

    I’m tired of all of the populism and strong headlines on Lemmy. Actual factual journalism gets burried deep in the feed.

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      • @Bytemeister
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        812 hours ago

        I don’t think I could do a better Nazi salute on purpose.

        • @pyre
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          411 hours ago

          there’s 0% chance he didn’t practice in front of the mirror like a fucking dork

      • Victor
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        311 hours ago

        Man, you can really see Adolf saying “Sieg Heil!” Scary stuff.

        Not to mention the guy on the left.

    • ArchRecord
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      911 hours ago

      Let’s look through your own Wikipedia link.

      Nazism […] [has] disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system.

      The union hating, multi-million dollar lobbying, vote-bribing billionaire totally supports actual democracy guys, trust me!

      Its beliefs include support for dictatorship

      He actively supports Trump’s unitary executive theory and related policy goals.

      antisemitism

      Elon supporting an antisemetic tweet

      anti-communism

      He blames communism for making his trans daughter mad at him

      anti-slavism

      He actively supports stopping aid to Ukrainians and ceding their land to Russia

      scientific racism

      white supremacy

      Nordicism

      Here’s him spreading scientific racism that claims people of European descent are superior

      homophobia

      Elon refuses to enforce Twitter’s policies against homophobia and transphobia

      ableism, and the use of eugenics

      Elon is a techno-eugenicist

      ultranationalism

      white supremacy

      He regularly promotes white nationalists online

      The only very few, specific categories I didn’t find any explicit mentions of him doing in my 10 minutes of searching around were anti-Romani sentiment and social darwinism, and you’d be hard pressed to prove that everyone you’d probably otherwise consider a Nazi throughout history believed every single possible bullet point in this Wikipedia page.

      If all this doesn’t make him a Nazi, then I don’t know what does.

      • @doodledup
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        No need to get personal. I’m open for a civilized discussion but not this.

        • @[email protected]
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          Wwwaaahhh! Defending Nazis gets people to say mean things to me!

          E: got dam autocorrupt

    • @[email protected]
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      2916 hours ago

      yeah, no evidence other than spreading antisemitism on x and litterær fucking heiling /s

    • Cyber Yuki
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      311 hours ago

      Oh fuck off, bootlicker.

    • @ziggurat
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      1316 hours ago

      I guess you could say the same about Hitler, since he didn’t personally kill any jews. If killing jews isn’t a requirement then there is definetly evidence that musk is a neo-nazi

      • @doodledup
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        Seriously?

        This is exactly what this polarizing title intended to do. Attract people like you who relativise the atrocities Hitler has done. Populism is a bitch and you’re falling right for it.

        Just give me an informative article with normal title and stop filling Lemmy with all of this clickbaity populistic shit that helps nobody. I’m tired of it and tired of discussing it too.

        • @ziggurat
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          312 hours ago

          Relatively speaking, Hitler was one of the worst people to ever live! And the richest man alive today idolizes him.

          Imagine if Mansa Musa and Hitler teamed up! The world needs to not experience that!

    • @[email protected]
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      311 hours ago

      I disagree. He’s done enough that calling him a Nazi feels accurate to me. Or at least enough of a Nazi sympathizer that I totally support not doing business with him.

      What I get frustrated by is justifying hurting the people that have his cars. Having a Tesla does not make one a Nazi sympathizer. You could maybe make the case that buying one today might, but even then I don’t think it’s justified attacking people for having a car.

      If you want to be an extremist about it, hurt the dealerships and the company. Don’t go after people who are almost certainly not that different from you. The people keying cars just want to feel smugly superior to someone and feel morally justified for being an asshole, they don’t want to make anything better for anyone. If that’s how you act, you’re just a fascist with a slightly different ideology.

    • @cynar
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      History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme. Musk isn’t a member of the Nazi party. He does hold a lot of important views in common with them, however. He also associates with people who fit most of the rest.

      What percentage do you think is needed before calling someone a Nazi?

    • dinckel
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      514 hours ago

      No evidence, except for that the entire first paragraph of that page describes his exact behavior. No need to be a bootlicker

    • @Bloomcole
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      515 hours ago

      nazis didn’t exist, they were all confused autists making awkward gestures