• @50_centavos
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    -143 days ago

    This might be a unpopular view but I think games like Elden Ring or Lies of P are a better RPGs. More action packed, less busy/boring missions. I beat BG3 and had fun for the first half of the game, the last half was a bit of a drag. I tried KCD 1 and couldn’t get into it, going from one end of the map to another doing mindless tasks. It was more of a middle-age simulator. I put ~250 hours into Elden Ring + DLC and I wanted more by the end of it.

    Either way, I have some hope for the future of games.

    • azuth
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      273 days ago

      So non RPGs are better RPGs? You don’t have to like RPGs.

      • @50_centavos
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        -83 days ago

        Elden Ring is an RPG, not sure what you’re saying.

        • @[email protected]
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          153 days ago

          Elden Ring better classified as an action RPG, to use an analog its more akin to PnP dungeon crawlers in how it approaches its RPG elements. While say Baldurs Gate 3 is closer to an extended campaign PnP game. They are both RPGs but that’s such a broad grouping so as to be meaningful, an atlatl and a welding torch are both tools but there’s no meaningful overlap.

          • @[email protected]
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            22 days ago

            To quote an old RockPaperShotgun comment about Dark Souls, the best decisions are the ones that you don’t know you’re making. DS definitely has storyline changes depending on where you go first, what you do and who you speak to, which is far more natural than a two-way dialogue option for “blatant RPG decision making”.

            The tragedy of Elden Ring is that it’s far too long for that. I’ve played through DS several times and would expect to get it finished in about five hours, so can play through the various plot line resolutions in a long evening of gaming. ER has a variety of ways that the DLC can play out, you say? Best book a fortnight off work so that I can get a hundred hours of gaming in.

            • @50_centavos
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              32 days ago

              You can complete 90% of everything in one playthrough. Then complete the other parts in NG+ so you’re not completely starting over. I believe you only need 2 great runes to face the end boss.

              • @[email protected]
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                12 days ago

                Well, yes. But I would argue that if you have the skills to defeat eg. the Draconic Sentinel with just two runes, then it’s probably not your first rodeo. Stumbling over all the steps to eg. Varre or Hyettas quests on an unguided playthrough, which require specific things in a certain order in a huge world, are not particularly likely either. Its size works against it in that regard.

                • @50_centavos
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                  12 days ago

                  Doing it in NG+ isn’t that difficult at all since you already have your stats set and multiple weapons maxed out.

            • @[email protected]
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              22 days ago

              I’ve played through DS several times and would expect to get it finished in about five hours

              Do you think your experience here is at all the norm?

              • @[email protected]
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                12 days ago

                For people that really love Dark Souls and have finished it repeatedly, including challenge runs? Five hours is probably taking your time, using rubbish weapons for a laugh. For your first time playing through, hell no - probably more like thirty. The first DS has some unreasonable traps for the unwary - one of the stats is a dead end, many of the weapons scale really badly. Maybe better to start with Scholar or 3, that are better balanced.

        • azuth
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          83 days ago

          Its an action game with RPG like stst systems.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 days ago

          An RPG without a story and full focus on gameplay, if you like fighting monsters over and over again it sure is great, but otherwise it lacks alot

    • lime!
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      123 days ago

      i don’t know that anyone calls them rpgs.