This person is an another example of a Trump supporter that had their brain broken by the Epstein cover-up last summer in light of the recent release. They have immediately gone from Trump is in the files to Biden and Obama are actually the ring leaders and Pizza gate Hillary Clinton‘s emails, and Hunter Biden‘s laptop are actually the real problem and the real masterminds behind everything.

While I can’t 100% say that Pizza gate is or isn’t real, or is connected to the Epstein files, this person just keeps hammering it in to me that this is the truth.

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    I’m starting to believe that the pizza gate stuff, QAnon, and the “trans are groomers” rhetoric were all planted in public just to muddy the waters around Epstein; to confuse people. That seems exactly what happened to this person.

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      I’m starting to believe that the pizza gate stuff, QAnon, and the “trans are groomers” rhetoric were all planted in public just to muddy the waters around Epstein; to confuse people.

      … I’m just insanely disappointed in the united states as a whole, because I don’t understand how anyone can be “confused” here, and yet I personally know people (and believe we all know someone) this describes perfectly.

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        Their thinking goes something like this:

        There are only two kinds of people: Bad People and Good People.

        Good people can’t do bad things, only good things (so if they do a ‘bad thing’ it was obviously just an innocent mistake because they’re Good People).

        Bad People can never do good things, only bad things (so if they do a ‘good thing’ it was obviously just to further some sinister agenda).

        It’s nearly impossible for a Bad Person to become a Good Person, because Bad is something you are, not something you do. It’s basically genetic that they’ll always feel the urge to do Bad. Only a Higher Power like God has the power to ‘save’ a Bad Person, they can never become Good on their own.

        I am a Good Person.

        Since I am a Good Person, I can only do good. And I only interact with Good People, and support Good People in politics/whatever because interacting with and supporting Bad People is bad, and I don’t do bad things.

        Those people I hang out with said that group over there is Bad. Since they’re Good People (because I interact with them) what they say must be true.

        The problem with Epstein is he short-circuits this exceptionalism-tribalism sort of thinking, for two reasons.

        First, because he hung out with what they consider ‘Good People’ (which they define as rich white males generally, and people they’ve supported in the past—remember, they only support Good People, because they’re not Bad). But Epstein was so vile, his acts so vile, and the ‘Good People’ so happy to participate, that their brains can’t square the circle of Good Person knowingly and enthusiastically and repeatedly doing Bad Things.

        And second, because the vile things he did have been harped on by all the ‘Good People’ they know as being Evil and Vile since way, way before any of this Epstein stuff was even hinted at, so they have a harder time just sweeping it under the mental rug with a ‘they didn’t know!’ or ‘they didn’t mean it!’

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      Yes my thoughts exactly too. I wanna say that to him but I know he will just snap at me and I don’t need that shit. Like with most people I’m around I just observe and watch them come to there own conclusions good or bad.

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        Can I ask why do you engage with them on this at all? You can ask them to stop sending you messages that are not work related.

        “With all due respect this is all batshit crazy and Trump is the ring leader. Please don’t send me non-work related items any more. Thanks.”

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          Yes I have asked nicely before to stop with all the nonsense messages. And they have been good at not messaging me. I just think because of the recent Epstein stuff his brain broke the has gone off the deep end.