I wanted a durable sustainable large light bottle and found these ones from Spain. Large dog and me consume a lot of water so I opted for a one liter single walled that would still fit in my bum bag bottle holder. Despite not a thermos it keeps refrigerated water cold for at least an hour or more in the current 28°C heat so I’m happy.

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Edit: response from Laken customer service:

Hello, Our aluminium bottles are manufactured in Spain. They are produced at our facilities in Spain, where they are manufactured under strict quality controls to ensure their safety, durability and performance. Thank you.

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    12 days ago

    I grew up with Great Depression era grandparents that I spent a lot of time with and my dad and his parents were antiques dealers, so I got used to appreciating old and classic stuff that lasts forever. I’m glad to see some of it coming back.

    I have a ton of oak furniture that I love that is over 100 years old and looks new, but I get why it’s not as appreciated these days. It’s heavy and of a definite (though classicly styled, in my opinion) time period, and it isn’t really meant to be changed out with the times and it’s hard to move now that people seem to be much more mobile than back in the pre-car era when this stuff was made. And there isn’t much point in buying something built to last generations if the future generations don’t want it or feel burdened by it.

    Both the thermos and the lunch box are heavy duty enough to be used for self defense, should the need arise! It’s a ton of material that I feel it would be better if people just didn’t buy them if they want multiples or buy them and not use them. My wife has a growing collection of heavy duty double walled bottles and tumblers that are increasingly taking up space, and it just feels so wasteful to me just to have a different color or whatever the reason is for having multiples.

    Buying used, like your Primus, is really good though that it has lasted long enough to find someone to appreciate it again while consuming no new material/energy.

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      12 days ago

      Ha, smack them in the face with the lunchbox and then take a lunch break sitting on their chest while they are down.

      I’m expecting proper furniture too to return to fashion now that people are starting to realize that the cheap furniture they have gotten used to is garbage. Even IKEA that used to be ok quality and all right looks for cheap with particle board and veneer have degraded to cardboard and plastic print that weighs nothing and breaks if you give it a harsh glance.

      I’ve got almost exclusively my furniture and plenty of kitchenware and other stuff second hand, except working desks and proper chairs and things like kitchen knives. My furniture pride and joy is a vintage 70s leather sofa from DeSede, obviously with a wooden frame and also weighs a ton. And it is so beautiful and has plenty of character that you’d need to invest €10000-€30000 to find something similar new today when everything remotely affordable looks bland and samey.

      That said, I understand your wife. I’ve come to realization several times over the years that I have way more of various utensils that I ever need, but I just didn’t want to see them getting scrapped for no reason. I really loathe the wasteful culture of today, seeing people tear out beautiful mid century modern kitchens to keep up with this season’s shade of greige. I’ve stopped looking for more stuff, but still when I see nice kitchenware in the dumpster, I sharpen the kitchen knives and haul them off to the local goodwill for less fortunate to have good things. Even if they are cheap IKEA kitchenwares, they are still useful for somebody else. At least give it away instead of trashing perfectly good things.

      But health has taken a downturn the last years and I can’t go second handing any more like I used to, so I try to buy new stuff that is somewhat sustainable and will last for a long time. Like this bottle that, unless I mess it up, should outlive me and after future adventures eventually be recycled into something new.

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        9 days ago

        I’ve always enjoyed things with timeless style and flair. The modern minimalist look borders too much on institutional like a school or hospital. I think houses should look lived in and unique, not like a catalog photoshoot. I have my grandmom’s couch that is currently pumpkin colored. It used to be a mustard yellow in the 80s-90s until the got it reupholstered and it still looks great. I’ve sat on that thing my whole life! Most of the rest of my furniture is oak antiques or at least things I’ve gotten from relatives that has held up to time.

        I like old stuff like vintage Gillette and small appliances as well. They work as good or better than new and look unique, even though they were the mass produced things of their day. That day just happens to be long gone, so that makes them exciting again, to me at least. Plus it is keeping serviceable items in use.

        It’s good to see people finding value in old items. You may get a kick out of The Post Apocalyptic Inventor youtube channel, if you have not seen that. He’s a German guy that goes to scrapyards and fixes old tools he finds, especially post war German and East German things and tells the history of the manufacturers and brand markings and gets them back in working condition to use in his shop.