• nforminvasion
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    1 day ago

    So… All of them?

    I also LOVE star trek but as someone generally for peace and a decentralized, just world, I can’t pretend that Starfleet isn’t a thinly disguised military.

    I absolutely think the heart of the show shines through, but the Liberal influences can often insert our failings as perfectly normal. Things that would not appear just or equitable in a socialist society like The Federation, are placed in as sort of accepted and normal.

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      18 hours ago

      I can’t pretend that Starfleet isn’t a thinly disguised military

      Disguised how? It’s literally Federation’s military.

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        17 hours ago

        True. When it comes to wars it is, however the writers are SOOO adamant that they are a “exploration and science corp” when in peace time.

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          19 hours ago

          she is. she’d also be insulted to win best captain on the grounds of fewest crimes commited. probably maroon the picard kid on a prewarp planet for the crime multiplier stats.

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      I feel TNG and Voyager never outright justified it, but rather found a way to minimize and debate it and try their nest to end up on the most moral objective whereas sisko let the ends justify the means and then said he’d do of again lol.

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        24 hours ago

        I hated that episode when I saw it the first time. I felt it betrayed everything I imagined Starfleet to stand for.

        Rewatching the show last year…when it came up again, I got it. Something about the Dominion war changed the context.

        I hadn’t actually seen anything else from that season the first time around. It made a difference.

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          3 hours ago

          In The Pale Moonlight is one of the few episodes of Trek I can name by name, and it is probably my favorite episode of all Trek.

          It is the point when Sisko is just done with all the bullshit, and played the game to the fullest.

          Starfleet command were not in a metal state of war at the time, neither was Sisko at first, but something snapped inside of him, and he turned on war mode.

          It is a clear shift in his personality as he realizes the normal Starfleet way isn’t working, and he took matters into his own hands.

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      Agreed but in part thats because they still needed to ground the story for everyone to relate and . . well . . *gestures to everything*