Isn’t pleading the fifth testifying? I feel like the article does a disservice to treat pleading the fifth as not meeting his obligation to testify, but maybe my understanding is incorrect.
The fact that he was right is the very reason they are so very butthurt. So him telling the truth was only going to enrage magameatheads all the more, since virtually of them peaking in high school.
Once upon a time (let’s say prior to 2016), it was generally accepted precedent that accepting a pardon was an admission of guilt.
So I believe the idea is that you’ve already forfeited your fifth amendment right by admitting guilt.
I could be wrong.
It also doesn’t matter anymore because after one of Trump’s early pardons (honestly forget which, there are so many awful ones. Maybe Mike Flynn?), they were kind of just like “yeah no it doesn’t equal an admission of guilt, that was never really precedent”. Which apparently was true. It turns out our entire country ran on gentlemen’s agreements for nearly 200 years but that’s a separate discussion.
The conservatives are bound and determined to try every bit of clown shoes performative bullshit if they think it will help them and hurt others, though.
Certainly they don’t care about the truth or any of that. They had to wear masks and see schools and businesses closed down, even if it saved lives. Worst of all, the liberals and experts like Fauci were proven right about Covid, and Donvict was proven wrong, and that is unforgivable to them. So they’ll lie and deflect and try every possible method to “get” people like Fauci.
All while they turn a blind eye to the obvious and blatant fraud and self-enrichment that Donvict and his crime family are doing right now.
Isn’t pleading the fifth testifying? I feel like the article does a disservice to treat pleading the fifth as not meeting his obligation to testify, but maybe my understanding is incorrect.
It’s the perfect demonstration that Republicans were just using the hearing to fish for a reason to punish him because they had nothing.
The fact that he was right is the very reason they are so very butthurt. So him telling the truth was only going to enrage magameatheads all the more, since virtually of them peaking in high school.
I think their claim is that his pardon somehow invalidates him being able to claim the Fifth.
I don’t know enough about law to have any idea on the merits of that, but it sounds crazy to me.
Even if they was the case though, how can you prove the pardon covers what he’s claiming the fifth on regarding his testimony?
Once upon a time (let’s say prior to 2016), it was generally accepted precedent that accepting a pardon was an admission of guilt.
So I believe the idea is that you’ve already forfeited your fifth amendment right by admitting guilt.
I could be wrong.
It also doesn’t matter anymore because after one of Trump’s early pardons (honestly forget which, there are so many awful ones. Maybe Mike Flynn?), they were kind of just like “yeah no it doesn’t equal an admission of guilt, that was never really precedent”. Which apparently was true. It turns out our entire country ran on gentlemen’s agreements for nearly 200 years but that’s a separate discussion.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/236/79/
You got me as to the legality of their claims.
The conservatives are bound and determined to try every bit of clown shoes performative bullshit if they think it will help them and hurt others, though.
Certainly they don’t care about the truth or any of that. They had to wear masks and see schools and businesses closed down, even if it saved lives. Worst of all, the liberals and experts like Fauci were proven right about Covid, and Donvict was proven wrong, and that is unforgivable to them. So they’ll lie and deflect and try every possible method to “get” people like Fauci.
All while they turn a blind eye to the obvious and blatant fraud and self-enrichment that Donvict and his crime family are doing right now.