Let’s try a more blatant example for clarification, imagine you said the following about someone who murdered his wife:
“personally I don’t blame him for killing his bitch of a wife, although I disagree”
the issue here is that you, like Sheeran, seem to think that staying neutral on genocide is being neutral even though you clearly know better than that… what you said armounts to “I would have done the same as Sheeran, if I were in his shoes”
You are putting a whole lot of words I did not say in my mouth. I said I understood why Sheeran was staying neutral, he’s trying to play the whole " I’m an artist for all people" blah blah bullshit. And I said I disagreed with it. It’s really common for musicians to do that, because they want ALL fans. One of the reasons I like Macklemore is that he doesn’t do that and is willing to put his career on the line for it. The fact that just trying to say “I understand why someone did something even if I don’t like it” still gets bombarded is pretty fucked up.
You claimed that Ed is acting neutral like artist normally do . I wrote about how he is taking sides. You call that whataboutism? Accusing other of whataboutism is hypocrites favorite technique
I cannot say this loud enough, as you aren’t the only person who needs to hear this. You bring wrong isn’t the other person doing a whataboutism. It’s you being wrong.
You are putting a whole lot of words I did not say in my mouth
Correct, and I warned in advance I was doing that to exemplify the point… I even warned I was being exaggerated about it
It’s really common for musicians to do that, because they want ALL fans.
Again, the issue here is that not taking a side in a genocide is taking the side for genocide
another example: no reasonable person would judge you if a bar fight start between two giants and you decide to not get involved… however, any reasonable person would judge you if you see a grown man beating a toddler and you don’t even call 911
The fact that just trying to say “I understand why someone did something even if I don’t like it” still gets bombarded is pretty fucked up.
Again, it’s not a normal thing you are understanding from Sheeran here… in my example above, I don’t think most people would be chill if I said “I disagree with beating the crap oot of toddlers, but I understand letting it happen and moving on”
I think that’s different though bud…
Let’s try a more blatant example for clarification, imagine you said the following about someone who murdered his wife:
“personally I don’t blame him for killing his bitch of a wife, although I disagree”
the issue here is that you, like Sheeran, seem to think that staying neutral on genocide is being neutral even though you clearly know better than that… what you said armounts to “I would have done the same as Sheeran, if I were in his shoes”
You are putting a whole lot of words I did not say in my mouth. I said I understood why Sheeran was staying neutral, he’s trying to play the whole " I’m an artist for all people" blah blah bullshit. And I said I disagreed with it. It’s really common for musicians to do that, because they want ALL fans. One of the reasons I like Macklemore is that he doesn’t do that and is willing to put his career on the line for it. The fact that just trying to say “I understand why someone did something even if I don’t like it” still gets bombarded is pretty fucked up.
He rightfully took side in Russian war of aggression of Ukraine. Stop with your bullshit excuses
Only if you promise to stop with your bullshit whataboutisms.
You claimed that Ed is acting neutral like artist normally do . I wrote about how he is taking sides. You call that whataboutism? Accusing other of whataboutism is hypocrites favorite technique
You brought up Ukraine. And you don’t think that’s whataboutism. Ok buddy.
You claimed that Ed do not take sides and I brought the example of Ukraine which prove that he do take sides . That is not whataboutism
So your argument is he has a different opinion about 2 different things and I’m an asshole for disagreeing with one of them.
My argument is that Ed do take humanitarian sides while you claimed that he doesn’t
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I cannot say this loud enough, as you aren’t the only person who needs to hear this. You bring wrong isn’t the other person doing a whataboutism. It’s you being wrong.
Correct, and I warned in advance I was doing that to exemplify the point… I even warned I was being exaggerated about it
Again, the issue here is that not taking a side in a genocide is taking the side for genocide
another example: no reasonable person would judge you if a bar fight start between two giants and you decide to not get involved… however, any reasonable person would judge you if you see a grown man beating a toddler and you don’t even call 911
Again, it’s not a normal thing you are understanding from Sheeran here… in my example above, I don’t think most people would be chill if I said “I disagree with beating the crap oot of toddlers, but I understand letting it happen and moving on”