cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/4249593

Democratic Gov. Jared Polis called the Gadsden flag ‘a proud symbol of the American revolution’ after a a Colorado student was told to remove a patch of the “Don’t Tread on Me” flag from his backpack.

  • diprount_tomato
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    -171 year ago

    Then why did they want to remove a patch in a boy’s backpack?

    • @ShittyBeatlesFCPres
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      161 year ago

      Why do you think overzealous school administrators are progressive?

        • @ShittyBeatlesFCPres
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          141 year ago

          That’s not what progressivism is at all. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism

          Progressivism is about organized labor and a willingness to make big policy reforms if they’re evidence-based. Like progressives want universal healthcare instead of the shit sandwich of corporate bureaucracy Americans eat at the hospital. Progressives don’t care about backpack patches in schools. The school policies they care about having a strong teachers union and high quality, universal school lunches.

          • diprount_tomato
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            -161 year ago

            Oh how out of reality do you have to be to believe actual politicians act like that

            • @ShittyBeatlesFCPres
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              121 year ago

              The two leading progressive politicians (Bernie and AOC) talk about unions and Medicare for All until they’re blue in the face.

              Also, I don’t think I’m the one here struggling with the reality of politics. This thread is about one rowdy teen having a patch removed from his backpack by a school employee. It doesn’t have anything to do with progressive politicians.

              • xerazal
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                71 year ago

                Don’t bother. Right wingers will do anything and everything to act like victims.

                I wish the right wing had never adopted the gladsden flag. They fly it without any real understanding of it’s meaning and give it a bad name.

              • diprount_tomato
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                -121 year ago

                I assure you that if that was the case this culture war nonsense wouldn’t exist and Americans would have a decent quality of life

                • @ickplant
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                  71 year ago

                  Americans would have a decent quality of life if they would let the progressives make some policies. Progressive policies are wildly popular and generally serve to improve the quality of life for the average person.

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                  The right has adopted talking about culture war issues 24/7 like it is their fucking job. Why? Because conservative policies are unpopular as fuck across the board, and are a non-starter for the majority of the country. Republicans abandoned a policy first platform a long time ago, and similarly the world is abandoning the small minded sycophants that make up their electorate.

                  Get a grip, you are embarrassing yourself…Nobody here is buying the bullshit you’re trying to sell. You must have forgotten this ain’t Reddit.

                  • diprount_tomato
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                    -51 year ago

                    OR maybe it’s because conservatives are more concerned about social issues than economic ones because… Well, that’s what conservatives do by definition

                • @Fades
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                  21 year ago

                  How are you so fucking dumb you can’t wrap your mind around the concept of minority groups?

                  Not everyone on the left is a prog, but you knew that of course. Weak attempt at trolling, sad

                  • diprount_tomato
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                    -21 year ago

                    Yes, minority groups deserve the same rights and protections as all citizens. Anyone who says they shouldn’t is a huge motherfucker

    • Flying Squid
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      111 year ago

      Do you think all progressives everywhere wanted to do that? You say a lot of silly things.

        • Flying Squid
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          141 year ago

          Ok, so what? You’re protesting the idea in another thread that conservatives eventually will want all queer people dead by saying incidents of violence were isolated and here you’re arguing that the actions of a single person can be expanded to all progressives.

          Make up your mind.

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            Where do you find a “dissonance”? If anything it’s you because you’re claiming that few incidents represent around half of th US, while I just said that progressives relevant to the boy wanted to censor him

            • Flying Squid
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              41 year ago

              That was not what the claim I was responding to said.

            • @Riccosuave
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              31 year ago

              Wait…you actually think that 50% of the United States population self-identifies as either conservative, Republican, or some combination of the two? You need to get your fucking head examined.

              If it wasn’t for gerrymandering and the electoral college Republicans would be getting draxxed in literally every single presidential election as well as a significantly larger number of Congressional and Senatorial elections.

              • diprount_tomato
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                -51 year ago

                Sure sure, that’s why it’s always around 50/50 with a slim majority that allows each party to govern

                • @Riccosuave
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                  Wrong, it is because:

                  • Republicans push policies that intentionally attempt to reduce voter turnout.

                  • The Senate does not allow for proportional representation.

                  • Congressional districts are so heavily gerrymandered it is a fucking joke. Then when the LITERAL Supreme Court tells Republican led states to re-draw their maps they refuse (Alabama).

                  • Presidential elections aren’t decided by the popular vote which has leaned Democratic in every election by millions of votes over the last 30 years with the exception of Bush’s second term which was an aberration due to the post 9/11 mind-virus and on-going wars in the middle east.

                  There is no conservative majority in this country no matter how you slice the pie. The game is rigged to allow conservatives an implicit advantage in rural states with lower populations to be over represented in national elections as well as in both legislative houses.

                  I don’t know why I’m even wasting my fucking time on you…I lost the minute I started typing, but the shit you said was so fucking stupid I just couldn’t help myself…

                  • diprount_tomato
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                    -41 year ago

                    What a surprise, cities are progressive and rural areas are conservative! It’s almost like that’s what happens everywhere

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      They were to remove the patches with firearms but there was a clear mixup in relation to adjacent themes like the no step on snek has become.

      Not that you’re looking for a real answer or anything, given how you are already aware that the official position is that the no step on snek symbology is expressly allowed yet ask why the patche were removed. I can’t even tell if you read the actual fucking article.

      Why are you playing dumb?

    • xerazal
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      11 year ago

      In recent years, the flag has become the symbol of the American Tea Party political movement and has also been adopted by far-right extremists.

      In 2014, a Las Vegas couple who espoused anti-government, pro-gun beliefs killed two police officers at a pizza restaurant and draped over one of their bodies a swastika and a Gadsden flag.

      • diprount_tomato
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        -61 year ago

        I guess we should ban the American flag too because the 1/6 folk waved it while taking the capitol

        • xerazal
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          11 year ago

          The sad part is you think you’re making some profound point, but you’re not.

          • diprount_tomato
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            -51 year ago

            If I’m not, explain why it’s not as valid as the “capitol guys used no step on snek flags, it must be banned”

            • xerazal
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              21 year ago

              First thing, you need to understand that I don’t support banning the usage of the glasden flag. I’ve already said that in my initial comment, so your comment was meaningless from the beginning. I quoted a piece from the article that could explain why some people view the glasden flag in a negative light today.

              Second, the US flag is the flag of the country. If your logic is “well dipshits flew it during their failed attempt at a coup thus you’re saying it should be banned?”, your argument is childish. The US flag doesn’t stand for what they did, they’re just adopting it and using it despite it’s underlying meaning. Banning the Nazi flag makes sense, because it’s a literal enemy flag that represented Nazi ideology. Banning the confederate flag makes sense, because it’s a literal traitorous flag flown by slavers and supporters of racism. The glasden flag doesn’t have the same innate meaning because it was the flag of revolution, it’s just that inbred wannabe revolutionaries today fly it when they’re larping freedom fighter 80 action heroes when in reality they want authoritarian rule.

              Again, I was quoting the article on why the glasden flag has a bad rap today, namely because idiotic authoritarians think they’re all mcs from an 80s action flick.

              • diprount_tomato
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                Then what point did you even try to make? It’s obvious it has a bad rep

                • xerazal
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                  11 year ago

                  I was pointing out why people asked him to take the patch off… because it has a bad rep and why it has a bad rep.

                  • diprount_tomato
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                    That’s like asking a Hindu to remove a swastika just because the Nazis gave it a bad rep while ignoring all its lore and significance to dharmic religions

    • @YoBuckStopsHereOP
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      -101 year ago

      Shh, they don’t want to be the bad guys.