Visual artists fight back against AI companies for repurposing their work::Three visual artists are suing artificial intelligence image-generators to protect their copyrights and careers.

  • MentalEdge
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    010 months ago

    You are drawing parallels where I don’t think there are any, and are asking me to prove things I consider self-evident.

    I’m no longer interested in elaborating, and I don’t think you’d understand me if I did.

    • @FooBarrington
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      110 months ago

      This is what it always comes down to - you have this fuzzy feeling that AI art is not real art, but the deeper you dig, the harder it gets to draw a real distinction. This is because your arguments aren’t rooted in actual definitions, so instead of clearly explaining the difference between A and B, you handwave it away due to C, which you also don’t explain.

      I once held positions similar to yours, but after analysing the topic much much deeper I arrived at my current positions. I can clearly answer all the questions I posed to you. You should consider whether you not being able to means anything regarding your own position.

      • MentalEdge
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        010 months ago

        I am able to answer your questions for myself. I have lost interest in doing so for you.

        • @FooBarrington
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          210 months ago

          But can you do so from the ground up, without handwaving towards the next unexplained reason? That’s what you’ve done here so far.

          • MentalEdge
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            110 months ago

            Yes.

            I once held a view similar to the one you present now. I would consider my current opinion further advanced, like you do yours.

            You ask for elaboration and verbal definitions, I’ve been concise because I do not wish to spend time on this.

            It is clear we cannot proceed further without me doing so. I have decided I won’t.

            • @FooBarrington
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              210 months ago

              Bummer. You could have been the first to bring actual argument for your position :)

              • MentalEdge
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                10 months ago

                Not today. I have too much else to do.

                And it’s not like my being concise makes my argument absent.

                • @FooBarrington
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                  210 months ago

                  The issue isn’t you being concise, it’s throwing around words that don’t have a clear definition, and expecting your definition to be broadly shared. You keep referring to understanding, and yet objective evidence towards understanding is only met with “but it’s not creative”.

                  • MentalEdge
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                    110 months ago

                    Are you suggesting there is valid evidence modern ML models are capable of understanding?

                    I don’t see how that could be true for any definition of the word.