Will Bunch expresses what I’ve been thinking since Trump was elected. American democracy is under attack from within. The fascists who yearn for an authoritarian government in the media are promoting it, and the media who supposedly don’t support it fail to recognize it. They are busy trying to follow the political playbook of the 20th century.

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    You can’t draw blood from a stone, dude. Why aren’t YOU out there investigating it? I think you need to get on a plane right now. Take a few months off work and get on it using your own savings to do it. I’m now demanding that much more from you.

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      01 year ago

      I’m not a journalist

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        And how does one end up part of your slave caste of journalists, where you’re allowed to demand they sacrifice themselves and work without pay? Just curious since like you, I don’t want to accidentally end up one.

        Or will you go ahead and hire one yourself to do that investigation? Just a few tens of thousands of dollars will probably support a few months of the work you demand.

        • @Mudface
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          -21 year ago

          What are you talking about?

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            Don’t be disingenuous. You’re out here DEMANDING that journalists should still be out there on investigation beats even if there’s no way to earn a living doing it, but aren’t willing to do anything yourself other than complain about how lazy and biased they are.

            • @Mudface
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              01 year ago

              Are you suggesting that no one would read an actual, real, investigative journalism piece?

              That’s what it sounds like you’re saying

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                Prepared by whom?

                If no one can get paid a living wage to do it, it won’t get done. You’re the one saying that a lack of funding for journalists is no excuse and that you DEMAND they go out there and do the work even if there’s no funding.

                If you’re so sure there is a good business model in what you want, go fucking do it.

                • @Mudface
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                  01 year ago

                  Any story like ‘who blew up the pipelines’ would be the biggest story in the country.

                  Anyone who writes that story will get fucking paid

                  That’s how this stuff works.

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                    It would… if you could get that result. But three different national governments devoted vast resources to it and couldn’t find anything conclusive, though we are fairly sure they were deliberate detonations using shaped charges and Russian vessels including a salvage shipped equipped with a submersible well capable of planting such charges were detected unexpectedly in the area beforehand. Russian involvement is still the most credible theory with Ukrainian sappers trailing somewhere in the far distance behind it.

                    Dozens of organizations, including media ones, HAVE tried to “solve” this one and been unable to do so. Hundreds of people have worked on it. Published about it.

                    Given that you believe no investigation has happened, it’s safe to assume you haven’t contributed to any of that effort, including through pageviews. Which pretty much proves your thesis wrong.

                    So again, the amount of REAL MONEY AND EFFORT it would take to get a definitive answer to this question is more than even the Dutch, Swedish, and German governments have been able to manage. But you are still not satisfied that journalists aren’t currently 100% devoting their limited time and resources to it.