• roguetrick
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    71 year ago

    If the Dems try to run on status quo they will lose just like when Hillary did the same thing.

    • Jordan Lund
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      101 year ago

      I dunno, Joe “Nothing will fundamentally change” Biden did OK.

      • pjhenry1216
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        111 year ago

        He just did better than Trump. The amount of support Trump still has is ridiculous meaning it’s more fervent than before. The reason Trump won originally could be why he wins again (if he makes it through primaries and doesn’t get convicted). I don’t think Biden can rest on his laurels for the upcoming election. Folks aren’t happy and enough of them are either disinterested entirely and won’t vote or mistakenly believe Republicans will fix it.

        • @orclev
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          I am going to be so mad if the DNC decides to bunt on this next election and lets Trump actually win (I’m just going to assume we’re still on the worst possible timeline and Trump won’t be convicted). In a perfect world the DNC would find an actually good candidate in their couch cushions or something and run them, but since what we have is Biden, at least I don’t know, pretend to give a shit about anything. Even if we all know it’s bullshit at least promise to fix some stuff. I’m so tired of the Democrats running on campaigns that amount to “We’re only 10% evil, so vote for us”, while the Republicans campaign on “Vote for us and we’ll do our best to legalize everything terrible about the 19th century, but if you’re rich white and male, you’ll probably be fine”.

          • Jordan Lund
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            41 year ago

            I’m less concerned about '24 than I am a '28 “Her Turn” Harris candidate. She hasn’t been good or effective as VP and running her in '28 guarantees a Republican win.

        • @Cheems
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          21 year ago

          The bar unfortunately was in the basement

      • @orclev
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        61 year ago

        Only because he was running against Donald “My entire tenure was a series of increasingly out of control trash fires” Trump. The DNC can’t rely on the GOP always running literally the worst possible person. I mean, history seems to show they keep somehow finding a candidate that’s even worse than the last guy, but still.

        The day both the DNC and GOP run candidates that are actually you know, decent human beings that I’d actually want in charge of anything let alone the country I will be utterly shocked. It’s never happened in my lifetime, and I somehow suspect it never will. But man, that sure would be awesome if it happened.

      • HopeOfTheGunblade
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        31 year ago

        Joe, “If you pay more in taxes nothing will fundamentally change,” to a room full of rich assholes Biden, yes.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          It’s too bad hat quote gets brought up as an anti-Biden thing when it was one of the somewhat cool things he said.

          I think the reason is “nothing will fundamentally change” is a pretty accurate description of moderate Democrats, but that particular statement was actually progressive-ish rhetoric. His idea of higher taxes (or more accurately what you’ll be taxing) isn’t going to match progressives, but they’re both sold as “rich people paying their fair share” not ripping their ill-gotten gains away from them.