• @marx2k
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          58 months ago

          Linux does have desktop environments.

            • @brakebreaker101
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              48 months ago

              That’s a lot like how on windows you have to download a zip and open it to select an executable.

            • @[email protected]
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              28 months ago

              I think it depends on what you’re trying to do. Normal stuff like web browsing, email and working with documents is fine. For example, my partner has been running her business from a Linux laptop for the last year or so and I don’t think she ever touches the terminal.

            • @[email protected]
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              8 months ago

              It’s not that it’s unintuitive at all if you pick a simple distro, it’s just slightly different from Windows which has been shoved in your face throughout your entire education and career.

              Yes there is some small amount of learning involved, but there are many Linux distros nowadays that are setup for ease of use and require no CLI knowledge or use from the user. There are many desktop environments that mimic Windows versions to make the switch pretty seamless, too.

              If you first tried Linux many years ago, I could understand you saying that it’s unintuitive, but nowadays that just isn’t the case.

              I’d like to add that you should just pick the OS you prefer. I’m not one of those needs that look down on anyone who chooses to use Windows over Linux. I personally have both on my machine because games. I just wanted to clarify that it isn’t unintuitive at all, just different than what you were forced to learn in school.

                • @[email protected]
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                  8 months ago

                  You don’t have to really use the CLI on the simpler Linux distros nowadays is what I am getting at. Mint and Ubuntu for instance. My grandparents use Mint, and believe me, they don’t know what the terminal is.

                  Also, windows installers run Command Prompt stuff in the background. You are basically doing the same process but clicking buttons to setup a CLI command. They are more similar than you think.

                  You are just used to the GUI way of doing things, and you can get by fine on Linux nowadays. If you were forced to learn Linux growing up, you would think Windows was the unintuitive OS.

                  I’m not trying to convince you one is better than the other, just telling you that it is not unintuitive.

    • @[email protected]
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      28 months ago

      I think it depends, I guess you “just” need the right distro and compatible hardware (e.g. a Thinkpad). I started as a complete Linux noob too, but most problems I encountered I could easily solve in no time because a lot of things are nicely documented or someone else had them before and documented their solution on the internet. But depending on your usecase and other factors I understand Linux can be a pain in the ass.

    • @dai
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      18 months ago

      Mainstream distros are just as easy to use as windows or MacOS.

      • @[email protected]
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        88 months ago

        As a Linux user I mostly agree…

        … until you try to play any competitive multiplayer game and wonder why any anticheat doesn’t work or flags your system and account.

        Nowadays I use my Windows 10 mostly for games and video editing.

        • @dai
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          18 months ago

          EAC depending on the title works out of the box from what I’ve seen, I don’t have much time these days to play many competitive shooters or games in general but Battlebit and PlanetSide look to work fine through proton.

        • @[email protected]
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          38 months ago

          You make a fair point. ProtonVPN was a nightmare for me to set up and get working too but I think that’s Proton’s fault more than Linux’s. I have many other applications that I simply installed with one click from the Software application and then have never needed to touch again. It seems not all app developers are equally motivated to make their stuff easy to run.

      • @[email protected]
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        38 months ago

        There’s still a lot of little things that are still a pain for someone who doesn’t know how things work. Many are not the OS’ fault but still, different experiences.

        For example, say you’re running discord. Next week there’s a discord update, it’ll not apply the update automatically, it’ll only download a deb file. An user familiar with windows may try to open the deb file… And it’ll launch the package manager, but the only option available is to uninstall. In order to install the update you’ll need the terminal.

        There are a lot of little things like this. This one is just something you need to learn, but others are a real pita when you have no experience.

        And if you have a 4k screen and Nvidia gpu when you try Linux for the first time, I guarantee you’re going to hate the experience.