I’m tired of my tax dollars going to being world police. My tax dollars should go to my community not be used to fund a war half way around the world. If Ukraine would like to BUY military equipment from us then fantastic. I also hear the Taliban have a shit ton of our military equipment they might be looking to sell. The countries in Europe should have always been the first ones to step in with aid and contribute the largest amounts.
If your claim is true that Ukraine still needs half of our military budget just to survive, then that sounds like a lost cause to me. Because they obviously can’t afford that, and it’s certainly not the US taxpayers job to fund it.
You may be tired, but then prepare to get completely exhausted. America is America because of its army and how that army is used. Your community is that, because of who and what americas army is. For better and for worse. Europe is how it is because of that also.
In this situation it is the job of America and the west to defend Ukraine and it is the moral imperitive for the west to stand behind them and help with whatever we can. That is the only option. The only option. If we don’t do it, the consequences may be dire, but it is also the right thing to do. America should and will increase the funding. My estimates are half of the budget for one year. That money is a negligible percentage of all the money that was spent in history to bring Russia to it’s knees and no American soldiers lives.
Actually, if we want to assume hurting Russia is what’s best for America, then we need to trickle just enough material aid to keep Ukraine’s military from complete collapse and let the whole conflict grind on for a few decades. Just like what we did for Afghanistan in the 1980’s, the last thing we’d want is for Ukraine to win quickly.
I’ve heard this talking point before, but it’s completely illogical. If you want to hurt Russia you give the other side everything they want and in great numbers and let them do whatever they want with it.
It’s got a long track record of working great. It doesn’t matter what they say they want or need, what matters is what is best for the US? Even though I disagree with all of the aid we already have sent, have you noticed there is no serious calls for peace from any US leader? This plan is already in action.
No and no.
Best is what is best for Ukraine. There are many aspects to it not only one, of course each countries politicians have to look at it from different perspectives and wheigh the options with those in mind, but that doesn’t change what matters.
I have seen non stop calls for peace for all nations and leaders in the world. In not sure what media you follow, but calls for peace have been going on since before the war, since before the occupation of crimea. I’ve seen leaders go to see Putin and plead for peace. Putin has 0 interest in that unless he gets everything he wants, so he can start to prepare for next invasion.
Oh it absolutely changes. US politicians need to determine what’s best for the US. And recently that has been to stop funding aid to Ukraine for atleast the next month, and to now enter into a new house speaker voting battle which could take weeks resolve. And those “calls for peace” have been symbolic “please don’t invade, go home”. There’s been no serious peace negotiations, I don’t even think there’s been much push from anyone for negotiations. If it’s in the US’s best interest to continue to harm Russia, then the trickle of aid will resume, but like I said originally I personally think that mission has been accomplished, and we can be done with it and I’m in the majority.
Again, the funding for Ukraine continues. In reality yhere is no disturbance there.
Again, calls for peace are in almost every public speech of almost every world leader, so I have no idea what the hell you are taking about. But I’ve seen this taking point coming from the kremlin when they are trying to self victimise.
I have no idea what mission you think America has accomplished. The war will last for some time and America has signed contracts to deliver weapons for at least the next two years. Multi year contacts have been signed with many other countries. The weapon deliveries have barely just begun. You being in majority is a big streatch after one cnn poll. What currently matters is that congress is voting 3:1 in favour of continuous help. It’s unlikely that will change in the near future and even if it did, many contracts are already signed.
And again, the idea that they would limit aid to prolong the conflict is completely illogical.
The first amendment does not give you a voice in our government, which is clearly what I meant.
But yes you can ramble here, because who else would I make fun of when I’m between meetings at work if dumb people didn’t post stupid shit on the internet?
lol, BlUe CoLlAr WoRkEr DuMb!, great strategy for the left BTW. No actually, I have a quick meeting with my accountant to go over some end of year tax prep stuff for my company, and then I think I’m going to sneek in a round of golf since it’s a nice day. Not many of those left before we have to switch over to skiing season!
Also it’s “sneak” but you can absolutely be barely literate and “run a business,” don’t worry.
But yes you’re correct that I see you as fundamentally lesser than I am. Its why I love paying people like you to build my deck and shit - I drink a glass of lemonade and watch you “own your business” lol
lol you couldn’t afford my companies services. Well enjoy your meetings, if it’s raining outside don’t forget your umbrella, wouldn’t want you to drowned. Us little people have a Tee time!
I’m tired of my tax dollars going to being world police. My tax dollars should go to my community not be used to fund a war half way around the world. If Ukraine would like to BUY military equipment from us then fantastic. I also hear the Taliban have a shit ton of our military equipment they might be looking to sell. The countries in Europe should have always been the first ones to step in with aid and contribute the largest amounts.
If your claim is true that Ukraine still needs half of our military budget just to survive, then that sounds like a lost cause to me. Because they obviously can’t afford that, and it’s certainly not the US taxpayers job to fund it.
You may be tired, but then prepare to get completely exhausted. America is America because of its army and how that army is used. Your community is that, because of who and what americas army is. For better and for worse. Europe is how it is because of that also.
In this situation it is the job of America and the west to defend Ukraine and it is the moral imperitive for the west to stand behind them and help with whatever we can. That is the only option. The only option. If we don’t do it, the consequences may be dire, but it is also the right thing to do. America should and will increase the funding. My estimates are half of the budget for one year. That money is a negligible percentage of all the money that was spent in history to bring Russia to it’s knees and no American soldiers lives.
Actually, if we want to assume hurting Russia is what’s best for America, then we need to trickle just enough material aid to keep Ukraine’s military from complete collapse and let the whole conflict grind on for a few decades. Just like what we did for Afghanistan in the 1980’s, the last thing we’d want is for Ukraine to win quickly.
I’ve heard this talking point before, but it’s completely illogical. If you want to hurt Russia you give the other side everything they want and in great numbers and let them do whatever they want with it.
It’s got a long track record of working great. It doesn’t matter what they say they want or need, what matters is what is best for the US? Even though I disagree with all of the aid we already have sent, have you noticed there is no serious calls for peace from any US leader? This plan is already in action.
No and no. Best is what is best for Ukraine. There are many aspects to it not only one, of course each countries politicians have to look at it from different perspectives and wheigh the options with those in mind, but that doesn’t change what matters.
I have seen non stop calls for peace for all nations and leaders in the world. In not sure what media you follow, but calls for peace have been going on since before the war, since before the occupation of crimea. I’ve seen leaders go to see Putin and plead for peace. Putin has 0 interest in that unless he gets everything he wants, so he can start to prepare for next invasion.
Oh it absolutely changes. US politicians need to determine what’s best for the US. And recently that has been to stop funding aid to Ukraine for atleast the next month, and to now enter into a new house speaker voting battle which could take weeks resolve. And those “calls for peace” have been symbolic “please don’t invade, go home”. There’s been no serious peace negotiations, I don’t even think there’s been much push from anyone for negotiations. If it’s in the US’s best interest to continue to harm Russia, then the trickle of aid will resume, but like I said originally I personally think that mission has been accomplished, and we can be done with it and I’m in the majority.
Again, the funding for Ukraine continues. In reality yhere is no disturbance there.
Again, calls for peace are in almost every public speech of almost every world leader, so I have no idea what the hell you are taking about. But I’ve seen this taking point coming from the kremlin when they are trying to self victimise.
I have no idea what mission you think America has accomplished. The war will last for some time and America has signed contracts to deliver weapons for at least the next two years. Multi year contacts have been signed with many other countries. The weapon deliveries have barely just begun. You being in majority is a big streatch after one cnn poll. What currently matters is that congress is voting 3:1 in favour of continuous help. It’s unlikely that will change in the near future and even if it did, many contracts are already signed.
And again, the idea that they would limit aid to prolong the conflict is completely illogical.
Ok, who organized and hosted the most recent peace talks between Ukraine and Russia? what terms were discussed?
Oh it’s completely logical. We’ve done it to Russia basically in every single one of their conflicts since the start of the cold war.
You don’t pay enough in taxes to deserve a say.
I know this because to be this dumb there’s no way you have a real job.
lucky for me, the US constitution says otherwise!
It really doesn’t. You get a vote, but not a say.
And, statistically, your vote isn’t impactful because you probably don’t live somewhere where it matters.
Enjoy voting no on school levies or whatever though.
I was obviously referring to the 1st amendment, but I absolutely am fully eligible to run for any federal elected office as well!
The first amendment does not give you a voice in our government, which is clearly what I meant.
But yes you can ramble here, because who else would I make fun of when I’m between meetings at work if dumb people didn’t post stupid shit on the internet?
Now, don’t you have some drywall to hang?
lol, BlUe CoLlAr WoRkEr DuMb!, great strategy for the left BTW. No actually, I have a quick meeting with my accountant to go over some end of year tax prep stuff for my company, and then I think I’m going to sneek in a round of golf since it’s a nice day. Not many of those left before we have to switch over to skiing season!
Ah, small-town “business owner” lol
Also it’s “sneak” but you can absolutely be barely literate and “run a business,” don’t worry.
But yes you’re correct that I see you as fundamentally lesser than I am. Its why I love paying people like you to build my deck and shit - I drink a glass of lemonade and watch you “own your business” lol
lol you couldn’t afford my companies services. Well enjoy your meetings, if it’s raining outside don’t forget your umbrella, wouldn’t want you to drowned. Us little people have a Tee time!