Starting with a business model that was unsustainable is not a reason not to transition to one that is. YouTube didn’t make enough money for it’s creators even with ads, so creators got themselves sponsorships and direct fan-support.
Now, I don’t think the platform deserves a big cut of that, but it does need to cover costs, at the very least. Yet the status quo, is to give YT literally nothing (block ads, don’t get premium).
I don’t understand - are you arguing that Youtube is having trouble covering costs? They seem pretty damn profitable in most of the recent year reports I can find.
And, they are only worth something to advertisers, if they work. Which in your case, they very likely wouldn’t.If the ads aren’t disruptive, they aren’t making money.
People get used to ads, and so they stop working, as they stop working, they have to get more aggressive, but then people just get used to them again… It’s an endless arms race that will never stop for as long as internet services revolve around ads.
That’s all good points. I guess banner ads are just where I draw the line. And since that’s not feasible for either side, all that’s left is adblocking
Which isn’t feasible for either side, either. If the payment for services rendered is ads, and you simply don’t, then you didn’t pay.
Stealing a single mars bar is a victimless crime, you may even have needed the calories to live, and the victim is a mega-corporation than can absorb the cost without ever noticing… But when you start approaching a point where every customer is doing it?
I think for many people at this point it’s just spite. I know it is to some extent with me. They removed so many things that I now have to use extensions to fix anyway (can’t set a predefined quality preference, can’t remove shorts, removed dislike) and you can’t even get that stuff when you do pay for it. At that point I may just run the 5th extension to remove ads as well and have a better experience than if I were simply a paying customer.
I think the higher Bitrate 1080p is the single biggest draw for me. But now I’m spiteful enough to avoid premium regardless. And don’t even get me started on the constant “TRY PREMIUM WE PROMISE IT’S GOOD” popups. It should speak for itself.
Starting with a business model that was unsustainable is not a reason not to transition to one that is. YouTube didn’t make enough money for it’s creators even with ads, so creators got themselves sponsorships and direct fan-support.
Now, I don’t think the platform deserves a big cut of that, but it does need to cover costs, at the very least. Yet the status quo, is to give YT literally nothing (block ads, don’t get premium).
I don’t understand - are you arguing that Youtube is having trouble covering costs? They seem pretty damn profitable in most of the recent year reports I can find.
I’d be down to opt into non-intrusive banner ads. Not loud unskippable bullshit that disrupts my experience.
Why? Why would you want to be marketed to?
And, they are only worth something to advertisers, if they work. Which in your case, they very likely wouldn’t. If the ads aren’t disruptive, they aren’t making money.
People get used to ads, and so they stop working, as they stop working, they have to get more aggressive, but then people just get used to them again… It’s an endless arms race that will never stop for as long as internet services revolve around ads.
That’s all good points. I guess banner ads are just where I draw the line. And since that’s not feasible for either side, all that’s left is adblocking
Which isn’t feasible for either side, either. If the payment for services rendered is ads, and you simply don’t, then you didn’t pay.
Stealing a single mars bar is a victimless crime, you may even have needed the calories to live, and the victim is a mega-corporation than can absorb the cost without ever noticing… But when you start approaching a point where every customer is doing it?
That can’t continue.
I think for many people at this point it’s just spite. I know it is to some extent with me. They removed so many things that I now have to use extensions to fix anyway (can’t set a predefined quality preference, can’t remove shorts, removed dislike) and you can’t even get that stuff when you do pay for it. At that point I may just run the 5th extension to remove ads as well and have a better experience than if I were simply a paying customer.
I think the higher Bitrate 1080p is the single biggest draw for me. But now I’m spiteful enough to avoid premium regardless. And don’t even get me started on the constant “TRY PREMIUM WE PROMISE IT’S GOOD” popups. It should speak for itself.