“Tell people there’s an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority will believe you. Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure.” --George Carlin
I’m not sure - citizens in blue states are rushing to limit their own second amendment rights while those in red states are busy expanding their own. Fascist militias are popping up all over the place, and this theofascist wave carries on.
It’s a shitty situation, but the fascists are already armed, and there’s no legislation that’s going to change that. I’m hopeful of the future, but there may come a time we’ll wish we had access to normal capacity magazines and non-nerfed rifles, Jon Stewart isn’t going to rescue you with his wit when they have you on your knees in front of a ditch.
Additionally, an armed labor class stands as a last line of defense against a hyper capitalist class chomping at the bit to turn the entirety of the US into a rent seeking company town.
Based on the 2A discussions there are a lot of people who do not believe him, or hold an overly optimistic view of what kind of America conservatives want to live in and what they’re willing to do to get there.
This is something I’ve been thinking about a lot. I think we need better gun control, but I also think we should only be talking about it and not trying to implement it. I don’t think the US is stable enough to actually be able to implement stricter gun control and not have fascists trying to take advantage of an unarmed/less armed population. We’re in real danger of our country going full Nazi within the next couple years.
Like, are you seriously telling me that if the US goes full Nazi, I should just lie down and die for the greater good? 'Cause that’s exactly what’s gonna happen when guns are only in the hands of fascists. But that’s okay because at least there was a decreased risk of a hormone-addled teen stealing their parents gun and shooting a school right? At least they got to live long enough for a fascist to do that for them.
Again, I think we need better ways of deciding who can own a gun; but damn guys, this really isn’t a good time to actually implement it. Maybe wait until we don’t have several wannabe Hitlers lined up and competing for the presidency.
Ironically, I also think gun control should open up an avenue for people to own machine guns again, because right now only rich people can afford one. Additionally, our current system regulating machine guns is based on arbitrary dates and the assumption that the ATF will do their due diligence when it comes to evaluating someone’s eligibility for owning one. I know it’s possible to have a society that allows people an opportunity to legally own machine guns because there is at least one European country which allows you to do so (Finland), but you gotta be serious about your gun control to make sure one doesn’t fall into the wrong hands.
Uh, anyway, since you kinda touched on this, I find it mildly amusing that it seems like every political view has a motive to allowing gun ownership except for liberalism and authoritarianism.
Libertarians: “I have the money and I want one, I should be able to buy one.”
Socialists: “How else am I supposed to seize the means of production? Ask nicely LOL?”
Communists: “the people only have power if they can assert their power against a government who no longer rules in favor of the people”
Anarchists: a mix of libertarian, socialist and communist logic
Meanwhile you have fascists and authoritarians in general being like, “only the people who I like should have guns” while liberals are like, “trust the government, they have your best interests at heart so you don’t need guns”.
Preach it! I’ll say it 1,000 more times; This liberal is well armed, practices every weekend, and isn’t going down without a fight.
I get the complacency. I’m 52 and not until maybe a year ago I figured there was no way in hell America could see a fascist dictatorship with trains and camps. Now I’m not sure it isn’t inevitable.
OTOH, I have a great deal of faith in the professionalism of our military leaders. Hell, they preemptively told Trump he could get stuffed if he thought they would aid him in the election.
I don’t think it’s that people don’t believe him.
My sisters don’t believe me when I say something smells bad and they’re almost always surprised by just how bad it smells.
You’re right, they absolutely believe him and believe it won’t be that bad.
“Tell people there’s an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority will believe you. Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure.” --George Carlin
I’m not sure - citizens in blue states are rushing to limit their own second amendment rights while those in red states are busy expanding their own. Fascist militias are popping up all over the place, and this theofascist wave carries on.
It’s a shitty situation, but the fascists are already armed, and there’s no legislation that’s going to change that. I’m hopeful of the future, but there may come a time we’ll wish we had access to normal capacity magazines and non-nerfed rifles, Jon Stewart isn’t going to rescue you with his wit when they have you on your knees in front of a ditch.
Additionally, an armed labor class stands as a last line of defense against a hyper capitalist class chomping at the bit to turn the entirety of the US into a rent seeking company town.
Based on the 2A discussions there are a lot of people who do not believe him, or hold an overly optimistic view of what kind of America conservatives want to live in and what they’re willing to do to get there.
This is something I’ve been thinking about a lot. I think we need better gun control, but I also think we should only be talking about it and not trying to implement it. I don’t think the US is stable enough to actually be able to implement stricter gun control and not have fascists trying to take advantage of an unarmed/less armed population. We’re in real danger of our country going full Nazi within the next couple years.
Like, are you seriously telling me that if the US goes full Nazi, I should just lie down and die for the greater good? 'Cause that’s exactly what’s gonna happen when guns are only in the hands of fascists. But that’s okay because at least there was a decreased risk of a hormone-addled teen stealing their parents gun and shooting a school right? At least they got to live long enough for a fascist to do that for them.
Again, I think we need better ways of deciding who can own a gun; but damn guys, this really isn’t a good time to actually implement it. Maybe wait until we don’t have several wannabe Hitlers lined up and competing for the presidency.
Ironically, I also think gun control should open up an avenue for people to own machine guns again, because right now only rich people can afford one. Additionally, our current system regulating machine guns is based on arbitrary dates and the assumption that the ATF will do their due diligence when it comes to evaluating someone’s eligibility for owning one. I know it’s possible to have a society that allows people an opportunity to legally own machine guns because there is at least one European country which allows you to do so (Finland), but you gotta be serious about your gun control to make sure one doesn’t fall into the wrong hands.
Uh, anyway, since you kinda touched on this, I find it mildly amusing that it seems like every political view has a motive to allowing gun ownership except for liberalism and authoritarianism.
Libertarians: “I have the money and I want one, I should be able to buy one.”
Socialists: “How else am I supposed to seize the means of production? Ask nicely LOL?”
Communists: “the people only have power if they can assert their power against a government who no longer rules in favor of the people”
Anarchists: a mix of libertarian, socialist and communist logic
(Traditional) Conservatives: basically libertarian-lite
Meanwhile you have fascists and authoritarians in general being like, “only the people who I like should have guns” while liberals are like, “trust the government, they have your best interests at heart so you don’t need guns”.
Was it really necessary to write all that out?
Preach it! I’ll say it 1,000 more times; This liberal is well armed, practices every weekend, and isn’t going down without a fight.
I get the complacency. I’m 52 and not until maybe a year ago I figured there was no way in hell America could see a fascist dictatorship with trains and camps. Now I’m not sure it isn’t inevitable.
OTOH, I have a great deal of faith in the professionalism of our military leaders. Hell, they preemptively told Trump he could get stuffed if he thought they would aid him in the election.