• @Mr_Blott
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    -16 months ago

    A lot more efficient

    Hundreds of engineers and scientists who designed modern dishwashers disagree with you

    • @Squizzy
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      36 months ago

      I don’t think you understand how it works if you think there is an opportunity for disagreement here.

      It is more efficient to heat hot water to hotter water than it is to heat cold water to the hotter level. If I have a tank of hot water doing nothing why wouldn’t it be more efficient to use that instead of cold water?

      • @Mr_Blott
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        06 months ago

        You misunderstand on-demand hot water

      • @orrk
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        -16 months ago

        ya no, I think you might be the one overlooking something here, you talk about efficiency, but leave out the energy needed to heat the water to “hot Water” in the first place, all you did was split the work, and ignore everything leading up to the second work step.

        you are getting water from the tap, let’s say 10°C and need it heated to 70°C, it will always require the same amount of energy input (10°C->40°C->70°C is the same amount of energy as 10°C->70°c), but if you centrally heat part of it you will lose energy while you store it, and during transport.

        • @Squizzy
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          36 months ago

          My air to water heater operates at 4.3:1 efficiency and heats to 60°. It stores it and loses 1° a day. The dishwasher would need to heat the water just 10° more given the tank is in daily usage.

          Otherwise the dishwasher would have to do it on in a faster timeframe. This is why electric power showers are more expensive to run than mains showers, they have to heat quicker which takes more energy.

          • @orrk
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            16 months ago

            fundamentally, water takes the same amount of energy to heat up, no mater the time frame, most commonly the “mains showers” are cheaper to heat because many run on some combustible

            • @Squizzy
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              16 months ago

              Yes but we are not heating water with 100% efficiency. So it’s not the same, it is cheaper and more energy efficient for me to use my air to water heater to heat water and store it than it is to burn coal to generate electricity to heat an element to bring water to the same temperature

              • @orrk
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                16 months ago

                ya, but you have energy productions other than coal