Stolen from linuxmemes at deltachat

  • m_r_butts
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    831 year ago

    I think this is funny, but it’s hard for me to hate too much on flatpaks. Disk space is practically free now, and having spent a good chunk of my career fighting DLL hell, I have a lot of sympathy for the problem it’s trying to solve.

    • @neclimdul
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      871 year ago

      Yeah I mean it’s taking 500G of my terrabyte ssd. What else was I going to use that for? Installing games off steam? Two node modules folders?

    • @[email protected]OP
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      181 year ago

      Its good and bad. Bad because the base system cant use it and its not the main packaging choice.

      Lots of good apps like OBS use outdated runtimes, which simply should not be used anymore. I am not sure if this is a security issue but probably it is, and it creates this unnecessary Runtime bloat.

    • @bouh
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      131 year ago

      I hate this philosophy so much! I hate developers for it! It’s like they gave up on even trying to do anything about retrocompatibility and managing libraries and dependancies.

      Anyway it will collapse soon. I just wish it was sooner.

        • @bouh
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          21 year ago

          An answer that posit that disk space is infinite and free and embrace the black box philosophy. Soon we will have machine priests doing rituals to maintain them I guess.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 year ago

        Honestly I get both sides of it. Your view makes sense as an end-user and from a philosophical perspective. But some people have legacy software that needs conflicting dependency versions, for instance. It’s just a trade-off.

      • @Synthead
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        1 year ago

        Yeah, package maintainers should have their dependencies figured out. “Managing dependencies is too hard” is a distro packager’s problem to figure out, and isn’t a user problem. When they solve it and give you a package, you don’t need to figure it out anymore.

        Plus, frequent breaking changes in library APIs is a big no-no, so this is avoided whenever possible by responsible authors. Additionally, authors relying on libs with shitty practices is also a no-no. But again, you don’t need to worry about dependences because your packager figured this out, included the correct files with working links, and gave them to you as a solved problem.

    • @[email protected]
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      131 year ago

      Honestly this. It’s so nice to not have to hunt for a specific library that depends on 20 other libraries. I’d rather pay in disk space than deal with that.

    • @uis
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      21 year ago

      it’s trying to solve.

      It does not solve it. It just slaps more DLLs on top. Package managers do.

        • @uis
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          31 year ago

          More info

            • @uis
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              1 year ago

              This is conflicting files, it indeed means that different packages try to install same files(usually happens when same package have multiple names).

              But this is different error from what you mentioned before. So I’m asking what dependencies conflict in your case? Libboost?

              You either don’t understand what’s being discussed here, or you’re trolling. Google it yourself if you want to know more.

              I ask what dependencies cause conflict. And why did you provide link to another error? Your comment has conflicting dependencies too.

    • Seven
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      21 year ago

      Some people have limited bandwidth for downloads, and a simple program can run to more space than a basic distro.