There is a law in the US that says trucks must meet a certain Miles per gallon fuel economy. But there is a loop hole that says trucks over a certain size are not included in that law. So as long as the trucks are ridiculously big they don’t need to worry about their fuel economy.
At the time the law was passed, the carve out was for work trucks which made a minority of the market. Possibly less than 10%, but they also put tariffs on the light trucks imported from Asia, and so now almost 30 years later we have the situation we’ve got now.
We need to revoke the tariffs on the light trucks for normal people.
Also make it so you have to have a business licence to buy them, and a CDL to drive these “work trucks”
Isuzu still has a light truck division, and the Asian market still has loads of smaller vehicles, we just need to get off this “tank obsession” here in the US
I looked everywhere for a truck of normal size when I was truck shopping. Midsized trucks are bigger now than full sized trucks were when I was younger. The only way to get a small one in the USA is to buy something that’s old.
Yes. A lot of the people who drive trucks do so because “I’m a big boy! Listen to me make lots of noise in my big lifted truck! Vroom Vroom!!”
If people are actually using it for a small business or whatever, sure, I’ll live, but most of the people who buy them are just buying them because they want people to know their dicks are small.
Should be to work. I work in an office and about 25% drive trucks to work. Not one of then tow, off road or carry anything in the back, but will definitely pay 125k thanks to loans on their big boy diesel truck.
One of the laziest shop steward’s nephew I have ever dealt with had one of those trucks. You telling me a guy like that is hauling lumber on the weekends?
Over here (in Europe) they just changed that. Reduced tariff is only for trucks registered to a company. Private persons pay full. It cut back on truck sales drastically.
holy hell. that’s just idiotic. who has that much money to blow on gas?
edit: i saw a post recently saying it costs some truck owner $80 to drive to and from work. i did the math and estimated 8 mpg, so i thought they were exaggerating. but nope, my estimate was pretty damn close to reality, and that’s an absurd amount of money to just throw away every day
I’m fully in favor of tiered and more rigorous licensing. Basic license should only clear you to drive a small, low-power sedan/wagon/hatchback. Vast majority of people won’t ever need more than that.
The footprint-based system means that selling more small vehicles does not necessarily help manufacturers meet the standards. Smaller vehicles are subject to more stringent requirements, such that a manufacturer of smaller vehicles has a lower CO2 standard while a manufacturer of larger vehicles has a higher CO2 standard. Footprint systems encourage improvements in efficiency, regardless of vehicles size, and have relatively little impact on vehicle size mix. Unlike a weight-based standard, a footprint-based standard encourages use of lightweight materials while maintaining the vehicle size, without subjecting the manufacturers to a higher CO2 requirement.
There is a law in the US that says trucks must meet a certain Miles per gallon fuel economy. But there is a loop hole that says trucks over a certain size are not included in that law. So as long as the trucks are ridiculously big they don’t need to worry about their fuel economy.
Edit: it’s the CAFE law.
This seems counterintuitive
Because car companies send lobbyists to Congress and pay to influence bills.
*bribe
It’s legalized bribery.
It’s called lobbying if it occurs in the registered geographic region of Washington DC, everywhere else it’s sparkling bribery.
At the time the law was passed, the carve out was for work trucks which made a minority of the market. Possibly less than 10%, but they also put tariffs on the light trucks imported from Asia, and so now almost 30 years later we have the situation we’ve got now.
We need to revoke the tariffs on the light trucks for normal people.
Also make it so you have to have a business licence to buy them, and a CDL to drive these “work trucks”
Does anyone make light trucks anymore? Even Toyotas are 3x bigger than they used to be.
Isuzu still has a light truck division, and the Asian market still has loads of smaller vehicles, we just need to get off this “tank obsession” here in the US
In Europe we have vans, they use barely more fuel than regular cars (at least until the really big ones) and can be used for just about any trade.
We also need to get rid of the chicken tax
Someone must be. Every time I am in Asia I see mini pickups. Would love to have one for my work.
I looked everywhere for a truck of normal size when I was truck shopping. Midsized trucks are bigger now than full sized trucks were when I was younger. The only way to get a small one in the USA is to buy something that’s old.
Those damn chickens ruining light truck imports.
Makes money without having to make effort to better their cars, seems very intuitive.
Welcome to the USA of today.
because they didn’t want to piss off the blue-collar demographic, they’re a huge voting block and drive trucks for work.
that’s politics for you. creating nonsensical laws that aren’t made to fix problems, but only to curry favor, be that with voters, lobbyists, whatever
That’s a bold assumption.
Yes. A lot of the people who drive trucks do so because “I’m a big boy! Listen to me make lots of noise in my big lifted truck! Vroom Vroom!!”
If people are actually using it for a small business or whatever, sure, I’ll live, but most of the people who buy them are just buying them because they want people to know their dicks are small.
Should be to work. I work in an office and about 25% drive trucks to work. Not one of then tow, off road or carry anything in the back, but will definitely pay 125k thanks to loans on their big boy diesel truck.
One of the laziest shop steward’s nephew I have ever dealt with had one of those trucks. You telling me a guy like that is hauling lumber on the weekends?
Over here (in Europe) they just changed that. Reduced tariff is only for trucks registered to a company. Private persons pay full. It cut back on truck sales drastically.
“your vehicle needs to be efficient by law, unless your vehicle is super inefficient then no worries there big guy”
holy hell. that’s just idiotic. who has that much money to blow on gas?
edit: i saw a post recently saying it costs some truck owner $80 to drive to and from work. i did the math and estimated 8 mpg, so i thought they were exaggerating. but nope, my estimate was pretty damn close to reality, and that’s an absurd amount of money to just throw away every day
It won’t stop until we treat anything with the title “truck” as a real truck. CDL and weightstations.
I’m fully in favor of tiered and more rigorous licensing. Basic license should only clear you to drive a small, low-power sedan/wagon/hatchback. Vast majority of people won’t ever need more than that.
Link or source?
https://www.meche.engineering.cmu.edu/_files/images/research-groups/whitefoot-group/WS-FootprintFuelEconomy-EP.pdf?shem=sswnst
https://me.engin.umich.edu/news-events/news/cafe-standards-could-mean-bigger-cars-not-smaller-ones/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_economy
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/10/how-cafe-killed-compact-trucks-and-station-wagons/?shem=sswnst
https://www.transportpolicy.net/standard/us-light-duty-fuel-economy-and-ghg/