Allegedly the dead are not disclosed to families, so probably Russians aren’t aware of the human sacrifice they are making.
I also saw a video describing how Russian wounded amputees are not sent home, but are kept in camps indefinitely.
I suppose there’s a limit to how much and how long they can hide it to their own population. But apparently they go pretty far to do it as much as possible.
300k+ out of Russia’s total population is like one in 500, a small city/village of 10.000 would have like 20 soldiers that just doesn’t show any signs of life any more.
Guess they know but it’s Russia and “what can you do about it” mentality…
Interesting perspective, and you are definitely not exaggerating the numbers, I get it closer to 1 in 400.
Question is if you can hide most of the 20 in a city of 10000, if the duration is almost 2 years?
I think many are naive enough to believe the official propaganda, especially because it is rarely contradicted, because if you do that, you disappear.
Thinking about it, if you take men 20-40 years old you have around 12.5% of the population, so some 17M people, like (if my math is right) 0.2 of those 12.5 percent are already dead or cannot fight any more? So there is like 12.3% left to work and eventually get drafted. Might seem not very much but it seems staggering. Without that ~12%, the middle class, the people working, won’t exist any more and the country would just stop existing basically. I mean it won’t disappear over night but that’s a fair chunk out of the most important thing, the main workforce I imagine.
Yes I’ve been wondering about these things too, and we already have confirmations of shortage of workers, and the Russian economy seems to be in some weird limbo between overheating on some parameters, and at the same time it’s actually in a recession.
Unfortunately the situation in Ukraine is stressed too, but at least I’m sure help from the west will continue to help them rebuild after the war.
300k+ out of Russia’s total population is like one in 500, a small city/village of 10.000 would have like 20 soldiers that just doesn’t show any signs of life any more.
Don’t forget about the 800,000 to 900,000 russians that fled the country since the start of the war to avoid being meat for the grinder. source
The other thing that will make the dead and escaped more noticeable would be the gender and age concentration. All of those disappearing will likely be men between 18 and 35. Russians are going to start looking around in public and seeing vastly higher numbers of old men, children, and women.
Lastly, there isn’t an even distribution of where these men came from. It might not even be noticeable in Moscow, but in Buryatia all the men may be gone.
Casualties are soldiers which are unable to fight. That includes badly wounded soldiers, which actually make up most of them. You generally are talking about a third of them actually being dead, so 1/1200. However when you can no longer fight, you are a cripple and that is also hard to hide.
Allegedly the dead are not disclosed to families, so probably Russians aren’t aware of the human sacrifice they are making.
I also saw a video describing how Russian wounded amputees are not sent home, but are kept in camps indefinitely.
I suppose there’s a limit to how much and how long they can hide it to their own population. But apparently they go pretty far to do it as much as possible.
300k+ out of Russia’s total population is like one in 500, a small city/village of 10.000 would have like 20 soldiers that just doesn’t show any signs of life any more.
Guess they know but it’s Russia and “what can you do about it” mentality…
Interesting perspective, and you are definitely not exaggerating the numbers, I get it closer to 1 in 400.
Question is if you can hide most of the 20 in a city of 10000, if the duration is almost 2 years?
I think many are naive enough to believe the official propaganda, especially because it is rarely contradicted, because if you do that, you disappear.
Thinking about it, if you take men 20-40 years old you have around 12.5% of the population, so some 17M people, like (if my math is right) 0.2 of those 12.5 percent are already dead or cannot fight any more? So there is like 12.3% left to work and eventually get drafted. Might seem not very much but it seems staggering. Without that ~12%, the middle class, the people working, won’t exist any more and the country would just stop existing basically. I mean it won’t disappear over night but that’s a fair chunk out of the most important thing, the main workforce I imagine.
Crazy.
Yes I’ve been wondering about these things too, and we already have confirmations of shortage of workers, and the Russian economy seems to be in some weird limbo between overheating on some parameters, and at the same time it’s actually in a recession.
Unfortunately the situation in Ukraine is stressed too, but at least I’m sure help from the west will continue to help them rebuild after the war.
Don’t forget about the 800,000 to 900,000 russians that fled the country since the start of the war to avoid being meat for the grinder. source
The other thing that will make the dead and escaped more noticeable would be the gender and age concentration. All of those disappearing will likely be men between 18 and 35. Russians are going to start looking around in public and seeing vastly higher numbers of old men, children, and women.
Lastly, there isn’t an even distribution of where these men came from. It might not even be noticeable in Moscow, but in Buryatia all the men may be gone.
Interesting, wow!
Casualties are soldiers which are unable to fight. That includes badly wounded soldiers, which actually make up most of them. You generally are talking about a third of them actually being dead, so 1/1200. However when you can no longer fight, you are a cripple and that is also hard to hide.