How does this differ from saying that women belong in the kitchen, or that being black means you rob people?
Stereotyping has, for my entire lifetime, until the past few years (trump I guess, until trump…), been something you’d only really see happening among the Republican types.
Now it’s become almost an exclusively Dem thing…
I get the whole “statistically speaking” aspect (I have a LOT of neighbors with lifted ram trucks on very clean mud tires) of your comment, but that same logic is behind all the other stereotypes as well… How is yours good and theirs bad?
Except I’m specifically talking about the specific act of stereotyping them…
Do you judge people who propagate stereotypes as being good people? (Apparently if the stereotype is “the other guys” it’s totally righteous…? I disagree)
Being shitty to shitty people doesn’t exempt you from being shitty… The end result isn’t a shitty person and a good person, it’s two shitty people.
What this moronic, completely asinine “argument” intentionally neglects to consider is that being a douchebag is not the same as being born to specific parents. No one here gives a flying fuck about your campaign to discourage votes for Biden.
I mean, even if they’re dirty… having lived in Texas a bit, the adults who talk about ‘big boy toys’ and think ‘muddin’ is how they want to spend their weekends are immature in every aspect of life. Some are decent people, but still. Overlaps with alcoholism, pill abuse, shitty music, family abuse, carrying guns with them to 7-11 because they’re fearful, and shitty bigoted politics.
I’m just not digging the stereotype. Not in defence of the recipients, but rather as a desire to see the proprietors be better, because they generally have been in the past…
You are obviously lying. No one believes you voted for Biden after you claim that bigotry is exclusively a democratic voter trait. Maybe next time try to troll a little more subtly
the first stereotype you mentioned is a lot more harmful, and targets minority groups or people that faced lots of oppression through history so there’s an existing power dynamic that they reinforce, whereas the classic truck driving republican is a much more represented group that has never faced historic discrimination.
Another reason is that politically, their right wing ideology is definitively also a lot more harmful to many people as the core of right wing ideology is power through oppression, and so mimicking the forms of oppression they enact on others is somewhat empowering for less represented and less powerful groups.
So it’s not wrong to stereotype, as long as you can claim “moral superiority” while doing so?
I personally think that’s been the narrative the entire time… All I can offer as an ambivalent is that it don’t make it right, but at least your version is less wrong…
I suppose that is what we vote on these days though, whatever’s the least fucky…
Except that it puts us all on two “teams” which just encourages hate. Yes, the red “team” is worse in every way, but unless we make personal connections on both sides as human beings we’ll just keep fighting each other and the ruling class will walk right past with their gobs of money and influence. Petty name calling plays right in to that.
Ah yes, a copy-pasta about trucks is literally the same as oppressing women and black people. The long and brutal history of truck owner marginalization must be stopped!
Also jokes on you, I don’t fit your stereotype of being an American on the internet.
How does this differ from saying that women belong in the kitchen, or that being black means you rob people?
Stereotyping has, for my entire lifetime, until the past few years (trump I guess, until trump…), been something you’d only really see happening among the Republican types.
Now it’s become almost an exclusively Dem thing…
I get the whole “statistically speaking” aspect (I have a LOT of neighbors with lifted ram trucks on very clean mud tires) of your comment, but that same logic is behind all the other stereotypes as well… How is yours good and theirs bad?
“Judging me for what I choose is equivalent to me judging others for what they are!”
Except I’m specifically talking about the specific act of stereotyping them…
Do you judge people who propagate stereotypes as being good people? (Apparently if the stereotype is “the other guys” it’s totally righteous…? I disagree)
Being shitty to shitty people doesn’t exempt you from being shitty… The end result isn’t a shitty person and a good person, it’s two shitty people.
What this moronic, completely asinine “argument” intentionally neglects to consider is that being a douchebag is not the same as being born to specific parents. No one here gives a flying fuck about your campaign to discourage votes for Biden.
If you have a lifted truck, with clean mud tires and chrome, with no scratches on it, I will make fun of you and your fake ass.
I won’t feel bad about it.
I mean, even if they’re dirty… having lived in Texas a bit, the adults who talk about ‘big boy toys’ and think ‘muddin’ is how they want to spend their weekends are immature in every aspect of life. Some are decent people, but still. Overlaps with alcoholism, pill abuse, shitty music, family abuse, carrying guns with them to 7-11 because they’re fearful, and shitty bigoted politics.
I will too actually :)
I’m just not digging the stereotype. Not in defence of the recipients, but rather as a desire to see the proprietors be better, because they generally have been in the past…
I’m chaotic neutral, I voted JoJo, sue me /shrug
You are obviously lying. No one believes you voted for Biden after you claim that bigotry is exclusively a democratic voter trait. Maybe next time try to troll a little more subtly
Regardless of their trolling, JoJo was a nickname for Jo Jorgenson, the libertarian candidate in the 2020 election.
Yeah, I had forgotten that. At the time though, I thought they were trying to mock Biden with a cutesy nickname.
I literally called it a historically republican trait… And I didn’t claim to have voted for Biden…
Some of y’all are getting as oddly zealous with this shit as the trump types are, and it’s kinda unnerving.
Yeah this is the picture you’d like to paint. But everyone knows it’s bullshit.
Troll isn’t good. Downvotes ensues.
the first stereotype you mentioned is a lot more harmful, and targets minority groups or people that faced lots of oppression through history so there’s an existing power dynamic that they reinforce, whereas the classic truck driving republican is a much more represented group that has never faced historic discrimination.
Another reason is that politically, their right wing ideology is definitively also a lot more harmful to many people as the core of right wing ideology is power through oppression, and so mimicking the forms of oppression they enact on others is somewhat empowering for less represented and less powerful groups.
That’s my impression of it at least
It’s not even a logical comparison. They say a sign of intelligence is making good analogies…
So it’s not wrong to stereotype, as long as you can claim “moral superiority” while doing so?
I personally think that’s been the narrative the entire time… All I can offer as an ambivalent is that it don’t make it right, but at least your version is less wrong…
I suppose that is what we vote on these days though, whatever’s the least fucky…
it’s a little bit more objective that “claiming moral superiority”, as one side does a lot more harm than the other
Except that it puts us all on two “teams” which just encourages hate. Yes, the red “team” is worse in every way, but unless we make personal connections on both sides as human beings we’ll just keep fighting each other and the ruling class will walk right past with their gobs of money and influence. Petty name calling plays right in to that.
So moral inferiority then… If you prefer…
Bad faith arguers are so much easier to spot than you apparently think
Ah yes, a copy-pasta about trucks is literally the same as oppressing women and black people. The long and brutal history of truck owner marginalization must be stopped!
Also jokes on you, I don’t fit your stereotype of being an American on the internet.
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