Is this really a good idea with a mass unguided approach?
A small fraction of men today are facing their “deep cores of emptiness” and are totally unequipped to deal with that reality. They “don’t return to the village humbled”. They lash out in violent rage and frequently killing other people in the process.
I am not by any means advocating psychedelics as any sort of solution to anything. My own experiences with psychedelics have not always been good and if folks don’t think it’s right for them they should absolutely trust that feeling.
I’ve only done Peyote once and I wouldn’t consider it a strong psychedelic. Don’t even remember having any visions or heightened perception, just a lot energy and motivation.
Perhaps I dosed it too low since it was the first time, but I didn’t even find it interesting enough to do it again, although perhaps it might be useful for my ADHD.
Mushrooms are far stronger hallucinogens, yet in my experience they are also far more common.
Your sample size is self selecting for those that were seeking it out. However the post is advising to recommend it to all men. This population might not have the same outcomes.
I don’t really think psychedelics should be recommended to everyone, but I also think that particular concern is paranoid and ignorant and maybe a little bit misandrist in a way you don’t need controlled studies to recognize. You want drugs that could make someone into an out of control rage zombie if they don’t have a chaperone, that’s entirely the wrong ones.
I don’t really think psychedelics should be recommended to everyone,
We agree.
but I also think that particular concern is paranoid and ignorant and maybe a little bit misandrist in a way you don’t need controlled studies to recognize.
Instead of focusing your thoughts on the best of us, or even the middle of us, think of the worst of us. Then imagine advocating to give that small number of men powerful psychoactive drugs without any monitoring or mediation. Thats an outcome of the advice of OP’s image.
That’s why you shouldn’t do these substances around people. Going alone, or better yet with a friend who stays sober, out into nature is the far better choice. The whole point is to reawaken your animal instincts that have been battered and bruised from society’s constant domestication, and to that end it helps to have some trees around.
What this lady is really saying is that most men are pussies because they don’t let their wild side out every once in a while. But you really don’t need to murder and kill people in order to do that, just going to play Tarzan in the jungle every now and then will do the trick.
I don’t think its a bad thing to be humbled by the knowledge that each of us is just an insignificant collection of recycled atoms that coalesce and starts thinking for a fraction of a moment before those atoms separate again and our consciousness returns to nothingness with the universe completely ignorant of us ever existing.
Instead of thinking of the entirety of men, think of the worst of us. Those are the ones that still don’t have this knowledge even though it is known to humanity for millennia. Those are the ones I’m referring to.
Yes but I’ll give her credit for not asking men to humble themselves before her, like most women do, but to request that they humble themselves before God instead.
I cannot fault her for that. It’s the proper thing for men to do.
“Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.” — James 4:10
What this lady is really saying is that most men are pussies because they don’t let their wild side out every once in a while.
I really really don’t think that is what she’s saying.
I think she’s saying: “Grasp, for a moment, the concept that most of the things you hold dear and strive for are mere societal constructs that not only don’t define your potential, but in fact can limit what you can achieve. Further, the achievements could be for intangibles instead of money, power, or fame. Realize how small you are to the universe, how insignificant. Be humbled by it. Be humbled by the concept of life, and that you have the gift of it, but not for long. Don’t waste your few dozen years of existence on trifle things.”
I’m saying that isn’t a welcome message for many men that define themselves as the higher of a relationship of subjugation. Whether that subjugation is based on perceived superiority to another gender, race, or religion. To this small percentage of men, inferiority, in any form is considered a weakness, and only bold acts of depravity would wipe away that stain in their twisted minds.
Is this really a good idea with a mass unguided approach?
A small fraction of men today are facing their “deep cores of emptiness” and are totally unequipped to deal with that reality. They “don’t return to the village humbled”. They lash out in violent rage and frequently killing other people in the process.
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I am not by any means advocating psychedelics as any sort of solution to anything. My own experiences with psychedelics have not always been good and if folks don’t think it’s right for them they should absolutely trust that feeling.
I’ve only done Peyote once and I wouldn’t consider it a strong psychedelic. Don’t even remember having any visions or heightened perception, just a lot energy and motivation.
Perhaps I dosed it too low since it was the first time, but I didn’t even find it interesting enough to do it again, although perhaps it might be useful for my ADHD.
Mushrooms are far stronger hallucinogens, yet in my experience they are also far more common.
Actually, this makes me want to go to the next Jan 6 type rally with some Merry Prankster dosed Punch.
I’ll make a sign that says “FREE MAGAritas!”
Serve candy canes with magic tea and call it stars and stripes
Always get someone to help guide you through your trip or as you have correctly pointed out, the problem gets worse.
Edit: Grammar is important.
Solo trips work too and violent rage and murder is not a normal outcome afaik…
Your sample size is self selecting for those that were seeking it out. However the post is advising to recommend it to all men. This population might not have the same outcomes.
I don’t really think psychedelics should be recommended to everyone, but I also think that particular concern is paranoid and ignorant and maybe a little bit misandrist in a way you don’t need controlled studies to recognize. You want drugs that could make someone into an out of control rage zombie if they don’t have a chaperone, that’s entirely the wrong ones.
We agree.
Instead of focusing your thoughts on the best of us, or even the middle of us, think of the worst of us. Then imagine advocating to give that small number of men powerful psychoactive drugs without any monitoring or mediation. Thats an outcome of the advice of OP’s image.
That’s why you shouldn’t do these substances around people. Going alone, or better yet with a friend who stays sober, out into nature is the far better choice. The whole point is to reawaken your animal instincts that have been battered and bruised from society’s constant domestication, and to that end it helps to have some trees around.
What this lady is really saying is that most men are pussies because they don’t let their wild side out every once in a while. But you really don’t need to murder and kill people in order to do that, just going to play Tarzan in the jungle every now and then will do the trick.
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I don’t think its a bad thing to be humbled by the knowledge that each of us is just an insignificant collection of recycled atoms that coalesce and starts thinking for a fraction of a moment before those atoms separate again and our consciousness returns to nothingness with the universe completely ignorant of us ever existing.
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Instead of thinking of the entirety of men, think of the worst of us. Those are the ones that still don’t have this knowledge even though it is known to humanity for millennia. Those are the ones I’m referring to.
Yes but I’ll give her credit for not asking men to humble themselves before her, like most women do, but to request that they humble themselves before God instead.
I cannot fault her for that. It’s the proper thing for men to do.
“Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.” — James 4:10
I really really don’t think that is what she’s saying.
I think she’s saying: “Grasp, for a moment, the concept that most of the things you hold dear and strive for are mere societal constructs that not only don’t define your potential, but in fact can limit what you can achieve. Further, the achievements could be for intangibles instead of money, power, or fame. Realize how small you are to the universe, how insignificant. Be humbled by it. Be humbled by the concept of life, and that you have the gift of it, but not for long. Don’t waste your few dozen years of existence on trifle things.”
I’m saying that isn’t a welcome message for many men that define themselves as the higher of a relationship of subjugation. Whether that subjugation is based on perceived superiority to another gender, race, or religion. To this small percentage of men, inferiority, in any form is considered a weakness, and only bold acts of depravity would wipe away that stain in their twisted minds.
Yea, because that’s how we get arrested.
Yeah that’s why you go in the forest because there’s a lot fewer cops there.