• @LemmyIsFantastic
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    -281 year ago

    You people won’t stop until folks are living in a bubble under gun point. There is always another low value crusade that most people don’t want to hear about just shoved in their faces.

    • my_hat_stinks
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      91 year ago

      Compelling argument. Counter-point: what the fuck are you talking about and how does it relate to people’s right not to be run over in the street?

      • @poopkins
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        -81 year ago

        If you drive a car, there’s no issue. Since it’s only pedestrians and cyclists getting hurt, the real solution here is simple: they should drive a car. This woke culture is all worked up about keeping their organs safe, because heaven forbid your skull gets cracked or shaken about and you end up with a little bit of permanent brain damage! Here’s an idea: if you don’t want a boo-boo in your head, try protecting yourself from two-ton hunks of rolling steel by moving around in one yourself!

        Besides, on the grand scale of the inexcusably high number of automobile related deaths in the US, it’s only a relatively small number of people getting hurt or dying in right-on-red accidents. After all, if people aren’t sufficiently getting maimed, this is really not an issue worth discussing. Let’s see these numbers go up first to an arbitrary threshold before having a constructive conversation about actionable ways that the US can take from developed countries where this problem doesn’t exist in the first place.

        Now we agree that the current status quo doesn’t need to be changed, let’s move on to debate unrelated challenges our society faces, like figuring out why American cities are so unappealing and what some significant causes of climate change are.

        • @poopkins
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          -21 year ago

          I guess it wasn’t abundantly obvious that this is written tongue in cheek.

          • @daltotron
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            21 year ago

            it is hard to rely on comedic appeal, for a somewhat random and unknown audience, to make up for a kind of sarcastic and mean set of writings, even if you’rr not being “serious”.

            but, we’re also just getting some poe’d law in there. I think you’d get the point across better if, say, instead of just reccomending that everyone drives, you reccomended that everyone drove as large a car as possible in order to “beat everyone else” in a crash. even that might not be enough, though, I’ve definitely seen people who actually believe that.

            • @poopkins
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              21 year ago

              I didn’t expect anybody to believe that somebody would advocate in earnest that a bit of permanent brain damage isn’t a big deal, but I guess there are such idiots. It’s interesting to see that formulating the dumbest possible position is indiscernible from one side of a legitimate debate on the topic of road safety.

      • @LemmyIsFantastic
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        -251 year ago

        Counter point to your counter point, bikes kill pedestrians as well. You going to ban those?

        • @TrickDacy
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          51 year ago

          bikes kill pedestrians

          Exceedingly rarely, almost to the point of not happening. You know this is a braindead argument.

          • @LemmyIsFantastic
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            -31 year ago

            ThatsThePoint.jpg.

            Just like cars killing people on right hand reds. It’s a very low occurring incident.

            • @TrickDacy
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              51 year ago

              False. In my city right on red kills people every year, but there has only been one bike that killed a pedestrian in 40 years and even that seemed like a weird fluke if you read about it

              • @LemmyIsFantastic
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                -61 year ago

                I guess you’ll just ignore the link I provided 🤷‍♂️ definitely feels more truthy your way

                • @TrickDacy
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                  11 year ago

                  Yeah I should probably accept your link as reality instead of the facts that I know for sure

                  • @[email protected]
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                    01 year ago

                    The link to actual data is less reliable than your feelings on what facts you know for sure?

                    … Yeah, you should be accepting statistical data over what you feel you might know

        • @poopkins
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          31 year ago

          We should advocate for having dedicated biking lanes to reduce these kinds of accidents, and redesign intersections to create a buffer space between pedestrian and bicycle crossing areas.

        • @AA5B
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          1 year ago

          While fatalities are rare to the point of non-existence, it’s certainly a fair concern that bicyclists have too much difference in speed and maneuverability from pedestrians, risking too many accidents/injuries. That’s why we separate them: bicycling is not allowed on sidewalks