I remember the first time I went. A vendor took us there for a business lunch as a get-to-know-you. The other guys were excited but I had never gone before. I distinctly remember my disappointment at the buffalo chicken sandwich and thinking these cannot be wing people. The waitresses were pretty but it just seemed weird to me that they dressed like it was still the 80s (in the mid 2000s) and the environment almost seemed to promote sexual harassment. Like it was a sexual harassment training ground or something.
Is it exploiting women if the women are choosing to be exploited in exchange for money? Back in the 90s and early 2000’s when the place was still really popular and they only hired “hooters” women the ones that worked there would bring in a couple hundred more dollars on a shift than serving at any other restaurant. It seemed more like the waitresses were the ones exploiting the lonely weirdos. They’d always flirt and talk to the guys, get a $100 tip, and leave em out to dry.
That’s like saying minimum wage workers aren’t being exploited because they ‘chose’ to work at a minimum wage job. If a Hooters pays 5% more than the next job, women will have to chose it if rent isn’t affordable otherwise.
Saying that people can just ‘choose’ not work somewhere is just incredibly insensitive to how difficult it is to change jobs and move when you are living paycheck to paycheck. You might as well tell me that homeless people ‘choose’ to be homeless.
Also, what point are you trying to get at? You aren’t allowed to make more money by being eye candy? Are you saying women shouldn’t be allowed to work at a strip club or in adult films or be models if they want to?
FYI, a hooters waitress usually gets around 3/hr plus $700 to $1500 a week in tips working full time. $75k a year (and pretty much no server claims all their cash tips) isn’t bad for wearing booty shorts and showing some cleavage.
Then theres that hooters girl all over tik tok that was making $4,000 a week in tips in Massachusetts.
I’ve been to Hooters many times, in many places. I’ve never seen a waitress getting harassed. It’s usually a chill vibe, with (relatively) cheap food and beer for a sit down restaurant.
Now I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but I’d like to think that due to the nature of it being a “breastaurant”, management is on top of that sort of thing with a quickness and those women don’t have to take any shit. Also, the harassment can happen anywhere, whether there’s skin showing or not. Maybe it’s naive of me though, idk.
You think it’s demeaning for a waitress to show off her tits and ass in order to take more of your money?
You really want to get in on it, just do yourself a Google search on “feminism and exotic dancing” and you’ll find a bunch of very mixed results, with very few feminists actually saying strip clubs or places like hooters shouldn’t exist, even if some of them don’t agree with women who choose to work at those places, they still support a woman doing the job if they choose to.
Assume you will be sexually harrased doing the job. Fine. Did you know you were likely to be sexually harassed in the job?
If a hooters waitress complains about a customer it’s standard that hooters will ban the customer and that most customers don’t sexually harass the staff, but that doesn’t make the sexual harassment that happened just disappear. It just means the same person isn’t likely going to continue doing it.
So the real question is “Why is it your decision to decide if someone else would exchange being sexually harassed in exchange for money?” Do you think the women there are stupid? Do you think they aren’t allowed to make that decision? Why are you deciding this on behalf of another person? Do you think you know better than they do? The bottom line is “my body my choice”. Stop being someone else’s keeper.
I remember the first time I went. A vendor took us there for a business lunch as a get-to-know-you. The other guys were excited but I had never gone before. I distinctly remember my disappointment at the buffalo chicken sandwich and thinking these cannot be wing people. The waitresses were pretty but it just seemed weird to me that they dressed like it was still the 80s (in the mid 2000s) and the environment almost seemed to promote sexual harassment. Like it was a sexual harassment training ground or something.
Is it exploiting women if the women are choosing to be exploited in exchange for money? Back in the 90s and early 2000’s when the place was still really popular and they only hired “hooters” women the ones that worked there would bring in a couple hundred more dollars on a shift than serving at any other restaurant. It seemed more like the waitresses were the ones exploiting the lonely weirdos. They’d always flirt and talk to the guys, get a $100 tip, and leave em out to dry.
That’s like saying minimum wage workers aren’t being exploited because they ‘chose’ to work at a minimum wage job. If a Hooters pays 5% more than the next job, women will have to chose it if rent isn’t affordable otherwise.
Saying that people can just ‘choose’ not work somewhere is just incredibly insensitive to how difficult it is to change jobs and move when you are living paycheck to paycheck. You might as well tell me that homeless people ‘choose’ to be homeless.
I’m not talking 5%. I’m talking 150%.
Also, what point are you trying to get at? You aren’t allowed to make more money by being eye candy? Are you saying women shouldn’t be allowed to work at a strip club or in adult films or be models if they want to?
FYI, a hooters waitress usually gets around 3/hr plus $700 to $1500 a week in tips working full time. $75k a year (and pretty much no server claims all their cash tips) isn’t bad for wearing booty shorts and showing some cleavage.
Then theres that hooters girl all over tik tok that was making $4,000 a week in tips in Massachusetts.
So if a job pays well, it’s okay for the woman being paid to be demeaned and sexually harassed?
I’m sure they’ll love hearing that in the C-suites.
I’ve been to Hooters many times, in many places. I’ve never seen a waitress getting harassed. It’s usually a chill vibe, with (relatively) cheap food and beer for a sit down restaurant.
Now I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but I’d like to think that due to the nature of it being a “breastaurant”, management is on top of that sort of thing with a quickness and those women don’t have to take any shit. Also, the harassment can happen anywhere, whether there’s skin showing or not. Maybe it’s naive of me though, idk.
You think it’s demeaning for a waitress to show off her tits and ass in order to take more of your money?
You really want to get in on it, just do yourself a Google search on “feminism and exotic dancing” and you’ll find a bunch of very mixed results, with very few feminists actually saying strip clubs or places like hooters shouldn’t exist, even if some of them don’t agree with women who choose to work at those places, they still support a woman doing the job if they choose to.
You haven’t really explained why it isn’t demeaning to be sexually harassed for money.
Assume you will be sexually harrased doing the job. Fine. Did you know you were likely to be sexually harassed in the job?
If a hooters waitress complains about a customer it’s standard that hooters will ban the customer and that most customers don’t sexually harass the staff, but that doesn’t make the sexual harassment that happened just disappear. It just means the same person isn’t likely going to continue doing it.
So the real question is “Why is it your decision to decide if someone else would exchange being sexually harassed in exchange for money?” Do you think the women there are stupid? Do you think they aren’t allowed to make that decision? Why are you deciding this on behalf of another person? Do you think you know better than they do? The bottom line is “my body my choice”. Stop being someone else’s keeper.
I see, so sexually harassing people on the job is acceptable if they’re okay with it.
No problem grabbing a secretary’s ass at the office if she likes it, right?