Donald Trump continued his push on Saturday to win the Republican presidential nomination with a pair of caucus rallies in Iowa, beginning at the DMACC Conference Center in Newton and then culminating in Clinton. His speeches come on the third anniversary of Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol and a little more than a week before the Republican Iowa caucus commences on Jan. 15.

As for commemorating the solemn anniversary of Jan. 6, Trump lauded the insurrectionists, while labeling some immigrants as “terrorists” and prisoners and gang members. “And terrorists are coming in also. What they’re doing to our country is not — it’s it’s, when you talk about insurrection, what they’re doing? That’s the real deal. That the real deal — not patriotically and peacefully, peacefully and patriotically” he said, contrasting those who rioted as “peaceful” and “patriotic” against immigrants, who the four-time indicted former president continually paints as criminals.

“I’m so attracted to seeing it,” Trump said. “So many mistakes were made. See, there was something I think could have been negotiated to be honest with you. … I was reading something and I said, ‘This is something that could have been negotiated … that was a that was a tough one for our country… If you negotiated it, you probably wouldn’t even know who Abraham Lincoln was … but that would have been OK.”

  • @[email protected]
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    Oh, hey, aren’t you the person that challenged me to read more? Incidentally, I have some reading for you that might shed light on your opening line. It’s called the Cornerstone Speech, and it was made by the first Vice President of the Confederacy at what was, functionally, their first state of the union address.

    https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/cornerstone-speech

    But to make it easy for you, here’s a juicy quote. It’s a little long, but I made it that way to make it clear it’s not out of context.

    But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other though last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the “rock upon which the old Union would split.” He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the “storm came and the wind blew.” Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science. It has been so even amongst us. Many who hear me, perhaps, can recollect well, that this truth was not generally admitted, even within their day. The errors of the past generation still clung to many as late as twenty years ago. Those at the North, who still cling to these errors, with a zeal above knowledge, we justly denominate fanatics. All fanaticism springs from an aberration of the mind from a defect in reasoning. It is a species of insanity. One of the most striking characteristics of insanity, in many instances, is forming correct conclusions from fancied or erroneous premises; so with the anti-slavery fanatics. Their conclusions are right if their premises were. They assume that the negro is equal, and hence conclude that he is entitled to equal privileges and rights with the white man. If their premises were correct, their conclusions would be logical and just but their premise being wrong, their whole argument fails.

    So, maybe that’s why some people think the war was about preserving slavery, because that’s what the Confederacy said it was about with their own words.

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      Why listen to the South on what was happening instead of Lincoln and reality?

      Do you think 1/6 was actually about stopping Biden from stealing the election because that’s what conservatives keep saying?

      They lied then, they lie now, why do you want people to believe them?

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        Because the Confederacy was already made by that point. They already had what they wanted: the institution of slavery constitutionally guaranteed forevermore. There’s no point concealing their hand anymore, it’s time to pop the champagne.

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          They already had what they wanted: the institution of slavery constitutionally guaranteed forevermore.

          Lincoln literally said in his inaugural address that he had no desire to make slavery illegal, and he didn’t think the federal government could even do that…

          The South wasn’t happy with that, they wanted the feds to force northern states to return escaped slaves.

          That is what they wanted, and when they couldn’t get it that, they started the civil war.

          But that blows up the “states rights” excuse they were using to trick poor people into fighting for them, so they lied.

          And apparently lots of people are still falling for it, yet don’t understand why modern conservatives are still trying it.

          It’s because you’re still falling for it

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        Point us to the quote where Lincoln says anything as to why the southern states seceded from the Union.

        Or, heck, how about a single reference supporting your so called “reality”…

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          On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it – all sought to avert it. While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place devoted altogether to saving the Union without war insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war – seeking to dissolve the Union and divide effects by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came.

          – Abraham Lincoln, Second Inaugural Address.

        • @givesomefucks
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          Oh wow…

          Everyone that started a war was honest about why they started it to you?

          So, you think Russia is honestly invading Ukraine to save the globe from Nazis?

          Have you ever thought about how profitable bridge ownership would be? I’ve got one in Brooklyn I want to get off my hands…

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            If the reason is that fucking reprehensible yes.

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              The fuck does that even mean?

              You think staring a civil war over “they’re making us stop having slaves” is better than “they won’t return escaped slaves back into slavery”?

              Their lie is a bad thing, but it’s still better than the actual truth.

              What is hard to understand?

              Like, if Jeffery Dahmer admitted to rape, would you think that means the serial killer stuff can’t be true?

              Lots of evil people admit to less evil actions so people stop talking about the worst.

              This ain’t even about history, it never stopped happening.