Donald Trump continued his push on Saturday to win the Republican presidential nomination with a pair of caucus rallies in Iowa, beginning at the DMACC Conference Center in Newton and then culminating in Clinton. His speeches come on the third anniversary of Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol and a little more than a week before the Republican Iowa caucus commences on Jan. 15.

As for commemorating the solemn anniversary of Jan. 6, Trump lauded the insurrectionists, while labeling some immigrants as “terrorists” and prisoners and gang members. “And terrorists are coming in also. What they’re doing to our country is not — it’s it’s, when you talk about insurrection, what they’re doing? That’s the real deal. That the real deal — not patriotically and peacefully, peacefully and patriotically” he said, contrasting those who rioted as “peaceful” and “patriotic” against immigrants, who the four-time indicted former president continually paints as criminals.

“I’m so attracted to seeing it,” Trump said. “So many mistakes were made. See, there was something I think could have been negotiated to be honest with you. … I was reading something and I said, ‘This is something that could have been negotiated … that was a that was a tough one for our country… If you negotiated it, you probably wouldn’t even know who Abraham Lincoln was … but that would have been OK.”

  • @givesomefucks
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    -1711 months ago

    Why listen to the South on what was happening instead of Lincoln and reality?

    Do you think 1/6 was actually about stopping Biden from stealing the election because that’s what conservatives keep saying?

    They lied then, they lie now, why do you want people to believe them?

    • @[email protected]
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      611 months ago

      Because the Confederacy was already made by that point. They already had what they wanted: the institution of slavery constitutionally guaranteed forevermore. There’s no point concealing their hand anymore, it’s time to pop the champagne.

      • @givesomefucks
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        -611 months ago

        They already had what they wanted: the institution of slavery constitutionally guaranteed forevermore.

        Lincoln literally said in his inaugural address that he had no desire to make slavery illegal, and he didn’t think the federal government could even do that…

        The South wasn’t happy with that, they wanted the feds to force northern states to return escaped slaves.

        That is what they wanted, and when they couldn’t get it that, they started the civil war.

        But that blows up the “states rights” excuse they were using to trick poor people into fighting for them, so they lied.

        And apparently lots of people are still falling for it, yet don’t understand why modern conservatives are still trying it.

        It’s because you’re still falling for it

    • @[email protected]
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      611 months ago

      Point us to the quote where Lincoln says anything as to why the southern states seceded from the Union.

      Or, heck, how about a single reference supporting your so called “reality”…

      • @Ensign_Crab
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        -411 months ago

        On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it – all sought to avert it. While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place devoted altogether to saving the Union without war insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war – seeking to dissolve the Union and divide effects by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came.

        – Abraham Lincoln, Second Inaugural Address.

      • @givesomefucks
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        -611 months ago

        Oh wow…

        Everyone that started a war was honest about why they started it to you?

        So, you think Russia is honestly invading Ukraine to save the globe from Nazis?

        Have you ever thought about how profitable bridge ownership would be? I’ve got one in Brooklyn I want to get off my hands…

        • @captainlezbian
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          If the reason is that fucking reprehensible yes.

          • @givesomefucks
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            The fuck does that even mean?

            You think staring a civil war over “they’re making us stop having slaves” is better than “they won’t return escaped slaves back into slavery”?

            Their lie is a bad thing, but it’s still better than the actual truth.

            What is hard to understand?

            Like, if Jeffery Dahmer admitted to rape, would you think that means the serial killer stuff can’t be true?

            Lots of evil people admit to less evil actions so people stop talking about the worst.

            This ain’t even about history, it never stopped happening.