• @FrankTheHealer
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    655 months ago

    It’s purchasing ≠ owning, then piracy ≠ stealing

    • @[email protected]
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      235 months ago

      Piracy is never stealing, since you are not removing anything from anyone. This does not include actual piracy, the one with ships and rum.

    • @ripcord
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      185 months ago

      I don’t believe piracy is treated as stealing from a legal sense, already.

      • @[email protected]
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        15 months ago

        That’s true. If I steal 20 copies of some avengers movie from Walmart and give them away on the street, I’ll pay a couple thousand dollars in fines, tops. If I’m caught seeding an avengers movie to one person downloading from me in Serbia, I’ll be fined more money than most people make in their entire lives

    • @Ad4mWayn3
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      25 months ago

      Partially agree, because if purchasing == owning (which it should), then piracy is still != stealing

      • @[email protected]
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        5 months ago

        Outside of programming circles I’ve been surprised how little people know what != means.

        • @grayman
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          85 months ago

          Despite claims, math and logic are not important skills according to many.

          • @[email protected]
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            15 months ago

            Are you implying that my math professors do not think math and logic are important just because they used instead of !=?

      • @TwilightVulpine
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        45 months ago

        I paid for the whole Unicode, so I’m gonna use the whole ꙮ𐐘彁 Unicode

    • @Dkarma
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      Ok but this isn’t purchasing outright it is basically leasing. It says so in the tos. The issue here is ppl don’t read tos or they don’t care and pay anyway. Ppl like that have zero right to complain.

      Lol everyone of you idiots are proving my point and making tons of idiotic assumptions like I’m anti piracy. Y’all need some logic lessons.

      • @A_Random_Idiot
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        255 months ago

        Amazing how you can talk so coherently with that corporate dick taking up so much space in your mouth.

      • @[email protected]
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        205 months ago

        How dare the average person not have the time or attention span to read a 28 page document in legalese that explains what exactly they’re doing

        It’s not like purposefully dense and overlong TOS is a known strategy to hide bullshit that later gets thrown out in court or anything

        • @[email protected]
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          145 months ago

          That person probably also think people who get shot are stupid for not moving out of the bullet’s path. “It is not so hard, it moves in a straight line you idiots”.

        • @[email protected]
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          -25 months ago

          So you don’t have time for that? Spend two hours reading stipulations for a service that you might use for a decade or longer? That you might spend thousands of your currency on? What happened to the world. So fast. So furious.

      • @[email protected]
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        195 months ago

        The button to install a paid app literally says BUY. If that doesn’t mean purchase I don’t what else it could mean.

        • lemon_nade
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          -95 months ago

          It’s literally just a convention, a design choice. It doesn’t really mean anything.

          • @[email protected]
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            From Wiktionary:

            buy (third-person singular simple present “buys,” present participle “buying,” simple past “bought,” past participle “bought” or (archaic, rare, dialectal) “boughten”)

            (transitive, ditransitive) To obtain (something) in exchange for money or goods.

            “I’m going to buy my father something nice for his birthday.”

            When I search the Play Store for Geometry Dash, and click the lil button that says “$1.99,” I get this page. It sure as shit looks like what I’m about to buy is Geometry Dash, the video game. When I click “Buy,” I’m not at all expecting to “buy” a temporary, permanently revokable license to play the game for now. I’m expecting to own the 1s and 0s that are downloaded to my device. Hiding legalese in the T&C that nobody clicks saying “actually buy means lease” is legal, and it should not be legal, because it’s misleading as hell. They should not be allowed to redefine widely understood words in T&C in a way that misleads consumers into paying for something they didn’t expect to be paying for.

      • experbia
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        135 months ago

        OK but piracy isn’t stealing it is basically a harmless free copy. The issue here is corporations want to have their cake and eat it too, but to prohibit us all from either having or eating any cake ever. Corpos like that have zero right to my consideration or care.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yeah, okay, except the iTunes and Facebook TOSes are longer than King Lear. Eventually a judge nullified a TOS on the basis that no-one ever reads those anyway.

        Thanks to odious TOSes, the average American commits three felonies a day, violations of the CFAA for which some whistle-blowers and journalists are serving sentences similar to [assassin] Scott Roeder (for the murder of Dr. George Tiller). The rest of us are not serving such sentences but for one officer or official who wants us to disappear.

        In the meantime journalists continue to get charged with such violations, usually when their investigating something embarrassing to current administrations. The EFF has repeatedly raised a stink about this, but hasn’t yet been able to change the law.

        If your kid is under 13 and has social media accounts on specifically kid-friendly platforms (that, themselves teem with predators, salesfolk and law enforcement) then your kid is committing major federal crimes. On the light side, they totally have haxxor cred.

        • @Dkarma
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          -25 months ago

          You 👏 should ,👏 expect 👏 this 👏 it 👏isn’t👏the👏first👏time

      • @[email protected]
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        45 months ago

        I recall a while back someone did a study that there are not enough hours in the day for an average person to actually read all the TOS documents they’re expected to agree to. The idea that people can or should be responsible for knowing what’s in a TOS is a legal fiction.

        • @Dkarma
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          05 months ago

          I never said or implied what you assume I’m implying.

          Get some literacy.

      • @psud
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        45 months ago

        TOS documents are designed not to be read.

      • TwoGems
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        25 months ago

        Nice try, Google

      • @[email protected]
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        25 months ago

        Some people don’t get how you can separate understanding the logic of something and not supporting it at the same time.

        Don’t worry, that is normal. Im getting laughed at left and right for having my own root-server with all my services running on it, all FOSS.

        Most of them were born with google already existing, it is part of nature. They haven’t seen a giant go down yet.