So I’m just one dude and 10k a year just on food seems incredibly high. I don’t go out that often, ~$1600 was at restaurants. I’m not really sure what I’m doing wrong while shopping at grocery stores and want to track grocery purchases better. The store I typically go to doesn’t have online receipts to use.

I’m wondering what kind of apps are available for tracking grocery expenditures that Lemmings would recommend? It would be nice to be able to go back and check prices/sizes of things too, so what is being shrinkflated/skimpflated

  • @RBWells
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    75 months ago

    $150 a month? Can you detail that? I am having trouble imagining feeding 3 people for that. We do cook near everything at home, including bread, stock, and have a garden and no way could we do that, not from zero.

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      5 months ago

      I should have mentioned that this month was a lot cheaper because I happened to cook some very cheap meals (and used a lot less meat). Anyway I buy nutrient dense, inexpensive produce and supplement the protein.

      TLDR: soup

      I buy my produce at my local grocery market because often cheaper. The cheap staples I always buy or have on hand are onions (10lb for 8$), carrots, potatoes, rice (50lb bag only). Those are almost always under or around 1$ per lb. The other produce to buy are based on sales the store has when there’s excess. So I might buy a ton of jalapenos for $1.20 per lb during sales. Cabbage is another dense vegetable that’s very cheap and filling. I also start developing some recipes in my head as I look at the produce. Another note is that some stores have sales of malformed produce for cheap, another great way to save money. Additionally a lot of stores have a “shit shelf”. These contain heavily discounted ,still safe to consume, products that have been dented, scratched or otherwise unfit to display/sell at full price. I often grab a ton of canned goods this way.

      I also avoid organic and non GMO, much more expensive and often is the same produce with a different label and price. I also avoid expensive or “humane” meats/eggs. As much as I would love for humane conditions for animals, most “humane” meat simply isn’t. Companies will always lie to sell at a higher price and regulation is simply too loose and vague.

      Much of the meat can be supplemented with cheap protein like peas, lentils, beans and rich stock. When I do buy meat, I buy from the cheapest store, and the cheapest kind. For chicken and turkey I buy the whole bird, which is important. The whole bird isn’t much cheaper but its what you gain than save. Specifically the bones and carcass from the bird. It can be used to make extremely rich stock that can further bolster the protein and nutrients. It also saves you from buying storebought stock, which is basically water and provides a lot less.

      On the topic of stock, it’s gold from lead. In my house, no food is thrown out until its been in the pot (to make stock). Especially veggie scraps, if its fleshy, not dry, it goes into the freezer’s stock bag. For meat trims, it all goes into the stock. Collagen in skin and trims add a lot of protein to stock (another plus of whole bird) and gives it a wonderful rich, thick, consistency. Even food scraps (sometimes), are saved and dropped in the stock bag. Also water used to boil any kind of food is gonna be the stock base. Stuff like bean water, or starchy water after boiling potatoes. Also after the stock is finished, let it cool and scrape the solidified fat off to use for frying and sauteing. This is where the “juice from the squeeze” comes from, a lot can be had from what we discard.

      Also easy way to make stock is slowcooker. Dump everything in, add water and leave it on. It has multiple advantages, its braindead easy, extracts the most nutrients and due to the low heat extracts very few tannins (they are bitter).

      Last and obvious point, buy in bulk. Even if you can’t use all of it, freeze the rest. I often do this with meat after butchery with whole birds. If you are running out of room, cook like crazy and freeze the finished meals instead of raw ingredients. A lot of water is removed in cooking, and the resulting food can be packed much more densely. Also freeze produce if you know it will go bad before being used, or roughly cut it and use for stock.

      Also helps to have a family of very small people that eat very little haha.

      In conclusion, abuse sales, buy in bulk, buy whole birds and bone in, skin on, and make tons of stocks and soups. Hopefully that’ll help cut down the food costs for you.

      • @weeeeum
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        15 months ago

        Another note, make cooking easy so you never need to order out. Watch some of Ethan Chelbowski’s videos and he has a ton of tips and tricks to organize and make cooking faster, easier and more convenient.

      • @RBWells
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        15 months ago

        Thanks. I’m already doing all this (the processes, I mean - freeze scraps, make stock, big bags of rice, potatoes aren’t cheap down here) I just think $35/week for a family is an unattainable target for most. We budget more like $200/week (2 adults, 2 teens are the last kids left at home, all physically active and 3 of us slender) mostly because food is not where I am willing to squeeze the budget, I do all that home cooking, low waste stuff because it makes better food. I do grow us greens and herbs and vegetables too.

        I do agree wholeheartedly that meal planning and reducing waste saves the most, while impacting your diet in a positive not negative way.

        • @weeeeum
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          15 months ago

          Yeah I absolutely agree about the healthy but also tasty diet. It could be even cheaper if we ate nothing but roasted sweet potatoes but I am never doing that. Additionally I should mention that the 150$ is a very low figure because I used the cheapest produce, cheapest protein, cheapest meat and nothing else. It definitely creeps up a significant margin when buying bread, butter, cheese, eggs, cream, oil, sauces, beef, processed meat, snacks, etc.

          I also think a major factor is the family. My family is Asian, and very small. My mother and grandfather are both around 100lbs and fairly sedentary, they eat very little. I’m the odd one out at 230lb because my dad’s Welsh and I have a very large stature and frame like him. I also work a job (mom’s retired), have very physically intense hobbies and I tend to get the lion’s share of the food lol.

          Something I should mention is that I too splurge on some ingredients, but I left them out of the equation, because they are luxury (to me at least) items. Main ingredient I splurge on is Tsuru Bishio soy sauce 40$, worth every damn penny, quality extra virgin (EV) sesame oil and quality EV olive oil. The oil is around 10$ each but are small bottles that go pretty fast. It’s cheaper to buy them in bulk but it gets stale and quickly loses complex, volatile, flavors, so they are a “luxury” item to me.

          Other ingredients we usually buy are, lots of ketchup for Gramps, tartar sauce, lots of Kewpie mayo, pickles, a Chinese amount of garlic (like a pound and a half a week), coffee creamer, dairy, snacking cheese for ma and probably some other stuff. All of which I excluded from the monthly spending because they don’t provide much in substance/sustenance and would skew the “bare minimum” figure. A typical grocery bill, including ALL food items, a larger variety of produce and meat, and more meat in general, would probably be 250 to 300 per month. I probably eat around 150$ of that and are probably more representative of your family members, if not a little over representative (trying to lose some weight right now haha).

          So I guess our spending, accurately adjusted, isn’t that far off after all lol.