That’s not the ideology though, guillotine memes are essentially just pushing for revolutionary restructuring of the state and economy. Nobody simply thinks “kill rich” and stops thinking there.
So could anyone. But what does that have to do with anything?
Your edit isn’t making anything any clearer. I’m all for eliminating millionaires and billionaires. In the sense of eliminating the concept. Not the people.
No one said they were. You are arguing a straw man. I simply said that they are indiscriminate. The French revolution sent 23 children to the guillotine. Many more dying imprisoned. Russia sent millions to the gulags to die for simple dissent. Not to mention revolutionaries killing tzar Nicholas’s entire family. Including his young daughter, Anastasia.
They always start out by targeting specific things. But it always gets out of hand. Targeting many more people in the end than is necessary or deserving. When you rule by revolution. You never have peace. Always watching your back waiting for the revolution to unseat you. Your enemy list constantly growing.
I’m all for restructuring of the state and economy. But when has revolution ever truly worked long term. Has it worked long-term in France? Definitely in the short-term it made some change. Did it work long term in Russia? North Korea, etc. Replacing one inflexible authority with another is only asking to repeat their mistakes.
When the argument for an ideology as it has for so many of them, boils down to “you will accept it under penalty of death”. It might be that it’s a bad ideology.
I’m with Marx, it should be an evolution. Not revolution. Leftists giggling over guillotine posting isn’t helpful. Because it was an all too real thing, for good or bad. Realistically it makes more enemies than it could ever remove.
In this case it would be self-defense. The only reason anyone thinks otherwise is because the danger posed by a billionaire money hoarder is far more abstract than what most people are accustomed to.
The path to a better society is elimination of Capitalism, so Capitalists aren’t really going to agree to that, no matter how nice it would make things.
That’s fine with me, I don’t have any interest in “let’s just kill a bunch of people” as an ideology. It’s objectively wrong.
That’s not the ideology though, guillotine memes are essentially just pushing for revolutionary restructuring of the state and economy. Nobody simply thinks “kill rich” and stops thinking there.
That’s news to me, I always got the impression that “???” Was the next step after “kill rich”
More accurately, revolutionary restructuring of society is the first step towards a better future.
If we boiled down any political ideology we could probably say they are all about, “let’s just kill a bunch of people.”
At least with revolution the barrel is pointed at the oppressor not the oppressed.
No, you couldn’t. That largely goes against The ideology of actual libertarians, anarchists, and communists.
With the barrel of revolution, the oppressed are targeted frequently. Revolution is brutal, indiscriminate. And most importantly, temporary.
If I wanted to be a dick I could.
Which is the exact mindset that has us in arms against billionaires.
So could anyone. But what does that have to do with anything?
Your edit isn’t making anything any clearer. I’m all for eliminating millionaires and billionaires. In the sense of eliminating the concept. Not the people.
It’s exactly how this conversation started. Revolution isn’t about indiscriminate killing.
No one said they were. You are arguing a straw man. I simply said that they are indiscriminate. The French revolution sent 23 children to the guillotine. Many more dying imprisoned. Russia sent millions to the gulags to die for simple dissent. Not to mention revolutionaries killing tzar Nicholas’s entire family. Including his young daughter, Anastasia.
They always start out by targeting specific things. But it always gets out of hand. Targeting many more people in the end than is necessary or deserving. When you rule by revolution. You never have peace. Always watching your back waiting for the revolution to unseat you. Your enemy list constantly growing.
Whoa whoa whoa, I have no interest in arguing with you, buddy. This was the OP
Colloquially eat the rich or gulliotines are terms for revolution. The ideology behind revolution isn’t “let’s just kill a bunch of people.”
It’s “the ballot or the bullet” and like it or not the US was founded on it.
I’m all for restructuring of the state and economy. But when has revolution ever truly worked long term. Has it worked long-term in France? Definitely in the short-term it made some change. Did it work long term in Russia? North Korea, etc. Replacing one inflexible authority with another is only asking to repeat their mistakes.
When the argument for an ideology as it has for so many of them, boils down to “you will accept it under penalty of death”. It might be that it’s a bad ideology.
I’m with Marx, it should be an evolution. Not revolution. Leftists giggling over guillotine posting isn’t helpful. Because it was an all too real thing, for good or bad. Realistically it makes more enemies than it could ever remove.
Billionaires aren’t people
Believe it or not, they are. Only humans are capable of such cruelty.
This is silly. Billionaires are people, otherwise guillotines wouldn’t be effective.
Right, a society of machines would never create something as vile, insidious and wasteful as a billionaire
In this case it would be self-defense. The only reason anyone thinks otherwise is because the danger posed by a billionaire money hoarder is far more abstract than what most people are accustomed to.
The guillotines aren’t necessary if the rich would strive for a better society.
The thing is that they would never agree to that, so then we need the guillotine.
The path to a better society is elimination of Capitalism, so Capitalists aren’t really going to agree to that, no matter how nice it would make things.